@slm_TJ Seguro se ahorraron trabajo los de diseño de personajes, pero seguro hay personajes sacados de la alcantarilla que su diseño no se tardó mucho más en hacer en comparación al traje de baño de Robin lol.
(No soy hoyolamer, solo doy una humilde opinión c:)
@slm_TJ Si te soy completamente honesto, no le veo lo malo. I mean en todo caso prefiero que revivan a un personaje que me gusta y que tenga una jugabilidad nueva (? +
@Neneisonline Me refería más a la forma en como las tratabas, quizás involuntariamente eras mas empática que los chicos con ellas. O podría reducirse a que quizás si te enterabas cuando le gustabas a una chica a diferencia de nosotros.
Igual solo podemos divagar pq si es una situación inusual
@Neneisonline Ah mb, aunque nunca me pasó. Quizás a las mujeres les atrae un hombre que las entiende (? No se me ocurre mucho más que eso y tampoco sé que hablabas con ellas
@lulu_Yunjin En la serie de Fate GO de Babylonia es god personaje, tiene todo lo bueno de las rutas principales pero verlo ejercer como rey de Uruk y darte cuenta porque lo adoraba su pueblo, es increíble
@Amiancht@Neneisonline Ah Osea si, pero creo que el público que consume vtubers suele ser un poco mas susceptible a este tipo de cosas. Pero si, siempre ha sido fácil enamorarse, que no necesariamente es algo completamente negativo, pero simplemente hay personas que no saben que una guerra esta perdida
@Rawfler44 Ah claro, el apartado técnico sigue siendo el mismo, mi punto iba por lo que dices, te acostumbras por las buenas propuestas de gameplay que tiene. Lo positivo es que es algo que pueden ir puliendo =w=
To the people that are flooding the comments already:
I refuse to treat Ironmouse with special treatment.
It's inhumane actually.
I see her like a human being just like you and me.
Sugar-coating things and letting her go without criticising on her wrong-doings is doing her a disservice.
And to the people who care so deeply about artists but are anti ai:
You give zero fucks about the artists who spent months designing the game of NTE. Sure, they cut corners with AI, but the rest of the work was hard earned work from actual artists.
The moment you say "I hate AI, what about the artists?" and then you proceed to scrutinize the work of artists of NTE, claiming everything including what you don't know of being AI, only with the purpose of diminishing the work that was done by actual artists, is absolutely disgusting.
"I care about artists..."
"...Only the ones I want to care about though".
Disgusting virtue signallers.
Shame on all of you.
Apparently if an entire open world metropolis-themed gacha game (NTE) has 1 (one) book on the library with an AI made cover of a manga that serves as a reference to a manga 1-on-1, then this means:
The entire game is made with AI.
The work of the VA's was made with AI.
The work of the ACTUAL ARTISTS was also made with AI.
The entire rigging process was made with AI.
The cutscenes was made with AI.
And the story was also written with AI.
For the people that care so much about artists...
...You guys REALLY HATE the artists and many other people that are part of the development team of these games to the point of DEVALUING THEIR WORK.
Being anti-AI is MORE detrimental to artists due to unprovoked prejudice because of an artificial outrage THAN actually being pro-AI.
At least, being pro-AI means that the worst of the artists would be fired from their jobs (not that they wouldn't have been replaced by a better worker already afterwards). Nobody's work would've been diminished for being falsely labelled as AI to receive hate.
This is how you know being Anti-AI is a psy-op.
@monusete@PutuPauu Y está bien hacerle boicot a un juego que está apoyando más a los artistas que la inmensa mayoría de los que lo critican? Te aseguro que las 3 cosas hechas con IA en el juego no pesan nada en comparación a la cantidad de artistas que ha beneficiado el juego
@PutuPauu Me está dando mucho asco la situación, por tirar mierda a la IA están desmeritando por completo el trabajo humano que es un 99% del juego. Literalmente NTE le ha aportado más a los artistas que cualquiera que anda funándolo. Pura hipocresía toda la situación 🥀
Ironmouse, Shylily, AmaLee, and even the VA for the game, Maggie Elise, have come out against the usage of AI in Neverness to Everness.
They cite being "lied" to about the use of AI, as well as being protective of the "artists" and voice actors for whom AI threatens...
WHAT ABOUT THE PROGRAMMERS?
WHAT ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS?
Generative AI today is used universally in the development of software, and has already led to the loss of many software development jobs, especially for junior-entry level jobs. AI is already in every game, software, website, and yes, even on the backend of Twitch.
Oh, but it's a different technology.
No. Generative AI, whether it's LLMs with Claude code, or AI art-videos uses the same kind of transformer algorithm. AI is already in tons of games, especially in code, and they don't disclose that just because it's not "art assets". Requiring disclosure only for creative tasks, not for programming, is a double standard.
You people don't care about other people's livelihood. You only care about the optics of playing a game on stream or taking sponsors NOW that the drama has unfolded into mainstream discourse.
But they don't care that AI is used in Nikke art assets.
Or that AI was used in E33.
Or that AI is used in the software for all the modern games.
AI is transforming how work gets done across EVERY creative and tech industry, just like previous tech waves did. Crashing out about the differences between “creative” and “technical” is stupid when both are replacing/augmenting human labor in exactly parallel ways.
TLDR... pretending AI in programming is somehow “different” and harmless while AI in art is an existential threat is pure unadulterated hypocrisy.
@CuevitadeHele Totalmente de acuerdo, con saber cómo funciona el proceso de desarrollo de un juego, literal la IA es una mierda comparado al esfuerzo hecho por personas que está siendo desmeritado. Siendo que el juego le da más de comer a los artistas que cualquiera de los que se andan quejando
@GamsterGaming El NTE dando más de comer a los artistas que cualquiera de los que andan criticando por hacer dos estupideces con IA.
Si el juego está funcionando es porque la inmensa mayoría de sus cosas fueron hechas por personas, me parece muy injusto que hagan de menos al juego por esto…