Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected]

[Rust Embedded Working Group @rustembedded]

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[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@apollolabsbin PAC stands for Peripheral Access Crate

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@EspressifSystem me

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@Geoxion 🙊

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@mycoliza @rikarends and cause XSS security issues :)

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Yes, you shouldn't be upset because people who're writing and opensourcing a piece of code for free don't share the same priorities as you.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Firing up a twitter rant calling it "insane", "overscoped", needing "weedwhacking" is not constructive nor respectful.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Something constructive would be a github issue "hey guys have you considered modularising stuff so you can get a binary to flash stuff without so many deps?". (The answer would most likely be "PRs welcome" since modularity is not a priority right now.)

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends The fact that there's no Rust program other than probe-rs for flashing doesn't entitle you to make demands out of it.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Then you complain that ... these features shouldn't exist? that people should build a program that does just the one thing you want and nothing else? even though 90% of engineers needing flashing for their job will also need logging and debugging?

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends No. You want to flash a rp2040 with a Rust program. Then you *choose* to install probe-rs, which does that and 500 more other things.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Yet this entire thread is demands from you.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends Again, you're demanding someone else take the extra work of modularizing things (which is very non trivial!) for free, for you, just because your particular "taste" in software.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends "useless features" for you are "incredible time-saving tools" for people using probe-rs every day at their job, saving many hours when debugging or optimizing something tricky.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends This is a very selfish position. You're demanding someone write a tool with exactly the features you need and give up on the other features (or overengineer them in with an extension system). People build what's useful for them, not for you.

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends you'd know this if you had bothered to take a look at https://t.co/xJF6wTrmOf but instead the first thing you do is write an incendiary rant on twitter shitting on the hard work of hundreds of contributors. Not cool!

[Dario Nieuwenhuis @[email protected] @Dirbaio]

@rikarends SWD is not a serial port. Also probe-rs does much more than flashing: it has unwinding, tracing, logging, profiling, interactive debugging as either a GDB stub or a full-blown MS DAP server (vscode extension).

[RustNL @Rust_NL]

"Rust poisoning my wrist for fun" is the talk @lulf will give at RustNL 2024.

Details here: https://t.co/JdsTC6tGCd

#rustnl2024

[Noah Huesser @yatekii]

👋@rustembedded we have a new probe-rs release for you https://t.co/2MBvraFTBY🎉
The changelog is massive thanks to all the contributors! We got rid of libusb in favor of nusb, good C support for the debugger and countless bugfixes and internal improvements!
Have fun =)