@CoachD178 Quick question along the same lines…if someone said CJ Carr wasn’t even a top 200 player coming out of high school, what should we think of their opinion of quarterbacks?
You want an explanation? I'll do this thing that people call research and make an argument based on data and not feelings.
So what's the value?
There is plenty of value to anyone who is being objective and not trying to write a hit piece. For example, you brought up North Carolina and their ticket sales .... that was a beautiful example of cherry picking data to support a preconceived viewpoint instead of actually making a real argument.
You can cherry pick UNC, how about cherry picking Pittsburgh?
Their average attendance for ACC home games the last three seasons is 49,947 with only three games over 50K. The most is 58,667 (Clemson, 2024).
Attendance for the Notre Dame game? 68,400.
Attendance for the Miami game two weeks later? 49,845.
How about Georgia Tech in 2024. Average attendance is 39,745 with a high of 47,358. Attendance for Notre Dame game? 59,021
Duke in 2023. Average attendance was 24,847. Duke vs Clemson game was 31,638. Attendance for the ND game? 40,768.
Same year, Louisville. Average attendance was 48,797. Attendance for the ND game? 59,081
You could write this story for the vast majority of ND vs ACC games. Since ND joined, ACC teams sellout 23% of their games. They sell out for 90% of the ND games.
Now, if you actually want to do your job and learn things, go look at the ticket prices for those games when Notre Dame is in town. Specifically, go look at what tickets were going for when Pitt played Notre Dame compared to when Pitt played Miami. So it's not just about "selling out" or "average attendance," the overall revenue increases far greater because Notre Dame games are almost always considered premium or marquee games.
Actually, I'll make it easier for you. I'll show current ticket prices for ND vs UNC, Louisville vs UNC, and NC State vs UNC. Do some math, even if each game is solid out, you really think they are making even close to the same revenue in those games? Anyone trying to tell the real story would have discussed this. By not doing so it comes across as pure spin.
Let's go look at TV numbers in ACC vs ACC games and then go look at the numbers in ACC vs Notre Dame games.
Miami was the ACC's most viewed team in the regular season by over 7 million. 29% of their total RS views were the ND game.
How about common opponents?
Pitt
vs. ND - 3.96M
vs. UM - 2.22M
Syracuse
vs. ND - 1.89M
vs. UM - 1.20M
Stanford
vs. ND - 1.52M (despite 10:00 PM kickoff)
vs. UM - 1.21M
How about common leagues? Both teams played a really good American team.
ND vs Navy - 3.4M
UM vs USF - 740K
Go ask ACC coaches why they always schedule their big recruiting weekends when they host Notre Dame. Go ask ACC coaches why they use getting to play Notre Dame as a pitch with recruits.
Finally, I'll use your own words. You wrote this:
"Notre Dame could solve the ACC’s possibly existential crisis in an instant. All that is necessary to ensure the future of the league is for the Irish to join as a full member, possibly even while dictating some of the terms it would prefer, such as retention of its lucrative TV contract for home football games."
So you're telling me that the best path forward for a dying league is to alienate a team that could solve it's problems?
@tsnmike@ObjctvlySpkng@billtrocchi@CoachD178 If the importance could be explained in one small tweet, then it wouldn’t actually be that important. I’ll gladly have a respectful phone call any time you want though! If you want a podcast show about it from an ND media member though, ask @CoachD178 to go on a show.
@tsnmike@ObjctvlySpkng@billtrocchi Lol yes, and the article made absolutely zero sense. If you’ve never heard anyone explain the importance of Notre Dame’s independence, then you haven’t tried or listened. Go on a show with @billtrocchi and have a discussion with @CoachD178 and you’ll be educated quickly.