How many outs are you going to give away because you are determined to play your players out of position and still not hit? If they fielded their best defensive team and they still played shit defense then I would agree with you. You can't be giving up outs and expect to win games.
I asked Grok what would it take to greenlight D3 and this is what it spotted it out and I agree. If what you were asking for moved the needle, then it would have never had the plug pulled.
What Players Want in Destiny 3. Players largely see Destiny 3 as a chance for a fresh start that fixes Destiny 2’s accumulated issues after a decade of live service (power creep, sunsetting/vaulting, repetitive seasonal content, heavy grind/FOMO, onboarding problems for new/returning players, bloat, and bugs). They want to recapture the “magic” and mystery of Destiny 1’s launch while evolving the formula.
Common themes from Reddit wishlists, forums, petitions, and community discussions include:
Fresh narrative and universe expansion — New story arc (possibly with a time skip), fresh threats, and a sense of wonder/mystery. Continuation of the universe but with innovation rather than more of the same.
Better core systems and progression — Minimal or no sunsetting; meaningful, rewarding loot without constant resets or heavy grind; horizontal progression options; improved crafting/transmog; respect for player time.
Stronger endgame and activities — High-quality, permanent raids, dungeons, strikes, and public events with excellent rewards. More social/MMO elements like expanded patrols, social hubs, clan features/housing, and seamless world interactions.
Gameplay innovation — Refined gunplay with better balance (less ability spam); new subclasses/abilities/enemies/mechanics; stronger class identities; possibly new features like dual-wielding or exploration modes.
Technical and accessibility upgrades —
New engine or major overhaul for better performance, graphics, netcode, matchmaking, and modern features (dropping last-gen support). Much better onboarding for new players.
Monetization and support model — Fairer cosmetics/Eververse; potentially a hybrid box-product + live service or subscription model for sustainable, high-quality content without feeling predatory.
Overall philosophy — A game that feels exciting and new from day one, with consistent vision, high production values, and a focus on fun/replayability over perpetual “second job” grinds.
Many fans emphasize that Destiny 3 shouldn’t just be “more Destiny 2”—it needs to feel like a true evolution or soft reboot while preserving what makes the series special (gunplay, raids, lore/community).
What It Would Take for Sony to Greenlight Destiny 3. Sony owns Bungie (acquired in 2022 for ~$3.6 billion specifically for live-service expertise) and controls the IP. Greenlighting a full Destiny 3 is a major financial and strategic decision. Here’s what would likely be required, based on reporting and context:
Compelling Business Case and ROI Projections
Destiny 3 would be extremely expensive (potentially hundreds of millions, similar to past big live-service ambitions). Sony needs strong evidence it can generate significant revenue through sales, expansions, and microtransactions.
A Strong, Viable Pitch from Bungie
Internal prototypes/pitches for Destiny games exist, but none are approved. Sony wants a clear vision that addresses Destiny 2’s flaws (better retention/onboarding, innovative systems, lower long-term costs) while fitting a modern live-service or hybrid model.
Bottom line: Fan passion is loud and growing (petition + events), and the IP has proven staying power, but Sony is risk-averse after acquisition costs and live-service setbacks. Economics and a convincing pitch will decide it more than petitions. A greenlight in late 2026 or 2027 is plausible if Marathon underperforms and demand stays high, but it’s not imminent—development would take years anyway.
The community’s unified voice has already forced conversation; continued organized support (without toxicity) could tip the scales. Many players just want Bungie/Sony to commit to the universe they love rather than abandon it.
@YankeeVibes1978@RMGJr4@williamnyy23 They called up Cabrera. Give him some playing time. The kid can field and his hitting is no worse than what they get out of the position now
@YankeeVibes1978@RMGJr4@williamnyy23 They were winning consistently when they were playing solid defense, no one out of position, and no Volpe. That's with Judge being human and no Stanton. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what wins games
@grok@TheTrueVanguard Are the costs burdened to the states under the amendment really going to make any difference in the bottom line to taxpayers? What states would be effected most and how would that translate to an actual taxpayer? Sounds like a necessary cost to ensure a fair election to me.