I do think it would polarize things in a healthy direction if all US libs understood that Israel is basically the only western nation rooting for Trump. There's information to be gleaned there about both Israel and Trump
@lib_crusher If California had voted progressive on ballot measures, this argument would be stronger. If the Democrat stronghold on the west coast can’t pass progressive policy, maybe the country is just stupid and reactionary
@Alpo184205 @DrewPavlou Israel is going to be fine, and I don't care about them regardless. I'm going to look after myself "I" have no flag I am willing to die for
@DanRiffle Look at California ballot items, progressive ideas lost by wide margins too. You want to pretend its just Biden and centrism, go ahead, there's a lot to suggest its more.
@__mike91 you guys think your politics will "save us". How you have become parallel spectres of the evangelicals, clinging to the words of dead men about the day where great calamities befall your enemies and utopia awaits. It too is a dream, and theirs has more dreamers.
@OnlyAWorldAway@TravyMatty This whole brand of the left is over after a loss this bad. Hasan doesn't represent a more popular position than the DNC. Idealism appeals to people with hope, not people living in abject fear. And counting on misery to be revolutionary isn't a good prospect looking at Russia
@brandonbaskin I spent a decade in low paid shitty jobs helping disabled people because I believed in the cause. Now I don't believe in anything, and I especially don't believe in moralizing activists who don't know their own self interests. You have to put on your own mask to save others
@grimezworld progressive ballot measures lost in california, you dont represent any majority of politics anywhere in this nation but want to act like you do