GP & TPD in the South West. I produce open-access pharmacology CPD for primary care clinicians. Interests in better prescribing, polypharmacy and frailty
@ShaunLintern When things go wrong why not first independently review whole situation to identify where the system can improve rather than jumping to target the closest staff member?
@JDF_Keswick@NHSEngland@RCEMpresident Researched this a while back and couldn’t find any evidence to support asymptomatic BP screening in the general population.
From GP perspective a pain as well - single high BP then needs 7d monitoring which is usually normal. Generating work for little gain.
@timricketts_ Trying to come up with a hypothetical common long drug list all with good indications. Managed 18 - imagine metabolic syndrome pt: HTN, dysplipaemia, T2DM, obesity, gout, OA, recent MI with secondary HFrEF:
@drlauraforrest@DeanEggitt Depends on who your local wholesaler is - near me it all seems to come from one (Alliance Direct) but I think other areas have several. Ask a local pharmacist they should know
@Dr_DeanS In this case if you wrote saying sorry we’re trying to refer but being told no I would also do one to make sure patient not lost in the noise.
The aim is to make as much work as possible for the admin people who reject the referral - if it slides they’ll just do it again
@Dr_DeanS In that case you should be able to refer - assuming congenital issue needing their attention so therefore related to initial presentation (delivery)! You can bounce back and quote this guidance at them.
@Dr_DeanS If completely unrelated then it’s reasonable to come back to us GPs, often we can deal with the issue ourselves rather than referring to secondary care.
@Dr_DeanS Depends what the referral was for - see here: https://t.co/rB0pbFQOHn
If related to the original presentation or an emergency then they can’t refuse - bounce back and quote this guidance at them.
@dr_shai All came down to spidey sense from ANP that was not a normal child with constipation. Would have been a lot sicker had diagnosis been delayed. Nothing substitutes for those years of experience.
@dr_shai One year old seen by (very experienced) ANP with constipation. Asked me to see as duty doctor as something ‘not quite right’. Further questioning: weight loss, nappies overflowing at night. BGL was 30, DKA. Early diagnosis with rapid recovery in hospital.
@emmavardy2@DrSandyThomson@dementiaunited Thank you, from primary care perspective this is important. Occasionally will have pts discharged with non-specific dementia diagnosis, shortly after will approach us enquiring about meds. Then needs whole work up from scratch which can take best part of a year.
@DrLKVaughan@Adam_Skeen I do a lot of pharmacology teaching for GP trainees - lots of feedback asking for more as neglected area throughout medical training. I was lucky to have excellent clin pharm teachers at med school - taught us how dangerous inappropriate prescribing can be
@DrLKVaughan@Adam_Skeen Couldn’t agree more.
Has become too formulaic (if diagnosis X, give them Y). This leads to inappropriate prescribing and iatrogenic harm. Understanding the pharmacology massively improves prescribing ability and confidence.