Eric Claussen

@Politzania10 @SaxonODT Obviously, a hyper-liberal who encourages the destruction of his people. Haha If I just put some Viking name next to these quotes and said it was from a saga, these guys would eat it up.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@SaxonODT @Politzania10 Platonically speaking, all things equal, you have a duty to your family and kin before anyone else. "Honor your parents and nearest relations" 4th Golden Verse. What's odd is you think we don't believe this because you've been told otherwise.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@Politzania10 @SaxonODT It doesn't make any sense. They read stuff Nietszche says and conclude Plato is the greatest enemy of Paganism. You can show them direct evidence they're wrong and they won't change their position. Totally ideologically captured.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@SaxonODT @Politzania10 Right, we put the gods first and don't think they are subordinate to contemporary racial politics. The protagorean folkish maxim seems to be, "Race is the measure of all things"

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@Politzania10 @SaxonODT It's bizarre really. It's gotten to flat earth level denial of basic facts about Plato at this point. PDS: Plato derangement syndrome

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@SaxonODT @Politzania10 Almost every Platonist I know is an identitarian because of Platonism, not in spite of it. So no, we don't have a problem supporting ethnic identity, we just don't worship it as the most important thing in our spiritual life.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@Politzania10 @SaxonODT There's a lot of folkish heathens who like to lie and misrepresent Platonism and when they are proven wrong they refuse to change their views. So, in short, yes.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

2 days ago

@SaxonODT @Politzania10 Yawn

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@Heliotrophy

6 days ago

Iamblichus, 1500 years ago, explicitly telling us that yes it is possible to reconstruct damaged traditions: "For all these reasons, then, let us call upon the gods as our leaders, entrust both ourselves and our discourse to them, and follow wherever they may lead. We should not be deterred by the fact that this school has long been neglected; that it has been hidden beneath estranged teachings and certain secret symbols; that it has been overshadowed by many false and spurious writings; and that it has been obstructed by many other difficulties of the same kind. The will of the gods is enough for us, and with it one can endure difficulties even more perplexing than these." - Book 1 of On the Pythagorean Life; Literally the first thing he says in the book that he gave his students to read first of all. I highly advise you to save this quote for future use when arguing with those guys who say "but your line of transmission is broken bro, just become a sufi bro"

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Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

13 days ago

@CatholicCo200 Already answered twice.

Eric Claussen

@EClaussen

14 days ago

Platonic TAG: TAG makes far more sense as a Platonic argument. It avoids the awkward turn toward revelation in its second half and makes the least amount if assumptions. As you'll see, most of it is already Platonic, it's only derails itself when it tries to ground mythical revelation into the fabric of reality. P1. To argue, think, know, predicate, classify, count, or do science, one must presuppose objective intelligibility. P2. Objective intelligibility requires real universals: identity, difference, number, truth, logic, essence, relation, and order. P3. Real universals cannot be finally grounded in mutable matter, private mental states, social convention, or arbitrary language. P4. Real universals also cannot be finally grounded in causally inert abstract objects, because such objects cannot explain why reality is ordered by them or why minds can know them. P5. Therefore, universals must be grounded in an eternal, necessary, living Intellect whose thinking is their reality, the Forms being nothing other than universals understood as the self-luminous content of Nous. P6. This Intellect must articulate both unity and plurality, because intelligibility requires both sameness and difference, and it must itself proceed from a source beyond predication, since unity that is merely one among many cannot ground unity as such. P7. If ultimate reality is sheer plurality, unity becomes illusion. If ultimate reality is a unity that excludes plurality, plurality becomes illusion. If ultimate reality is brute and non-noetic, reason and truth are not normative at the root but accidental to it. P8. The Neoplatonic order alone grounds unity and plurality eternally without collapsing either: the One beyond being as superessential source, the eternal Nous as living self-thinking in which the Forms are articulated as one-and-many, and Soul as the mediating principle by which intelligibility descends into and ascends from the cosmos, constituting an eternal Logos, eternal procession, and eternal rational self-knowledge. Conclusion. Therefore, the Neoplatonic henology, the One, Nous, and the Forms as Nous's self-luminous content, is the only adequate ground for intelligibility, universals, logic, truth, and rational knowledge. If reality is not grounded in the eternal self-thinking of Nous proceeding from the One, then logic, universals, identity, and truth are either brute accidents, useful fictions, or causally dead abstractions. But the moment you argue, you treat them as objective and binding. Therefore every argument already participates in the Nous it tries to deny, and every act of recognizing intelligibility is already an anagogic ascent toward the One.

Chr1sto_Fa5ci

@Quasy021

15 days ago

P1. To argue, think, know, predicate, classify, count, or do science, one must presuppose objective intelligibility. P2. Objective intelligibility requires real universals: identity, difference, number, truth, logic, essence, relation, and order. P3. Real universals cannot be finally grounded in mutable matter, private mental states, social convention, or arbitrary language. P4. Real universals also cannot be finally grounded in causally inert abstract objects, because such objects cannot explain why reality is ordered by them or why minds can know them. P5. Therefore, universals must be grounded in an eternal, necessary, rational, living intellect. P6. This intellect must be the source of both unity and plurality, because intelligibility requires both sameness and difference. P7. If ultimate reality is pure undifferentiated oneness, plurality becomes illusion. If ultimate reality is sheer plurality, unity becomes illusion. If ultimate reality is impersonal, reason and truth are not personal or normative at the root. P8. The Christian Triune God alone grounds unity and plurality eternally: one essence, three persons, eternal Logos, eternal relation, eternal rational self-knowledge. Conclusion. Therefore, the Christian Triune God is the only adequate ground for intelligibility, universals, logic, truth, and rational knowledge. If reality is not grounded in the eternal Logos of the Triune God, then logic, universals, identity, and truth are either brute accidents, useful fictions, or causally dead abstractions. But the moment you argue, you treat them as objective and binding. Therefore every argument already borrows from the Logos it tries to deny.