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2 Corinthians 13:5 (NKJV)
“Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.”
In Scripture, God’s people are constantly called to honest self‑inspection. Israel was told to “consider your ways” (Haggai 1:5), and David begged, “Search me, O God, and know my heart… and lead me in the way everlasting” (Psalm 139:23–24). Paul himself feared becoming “disqualified” after preaching to others if he did not discipline his own life (1 Corinthians 9:27).
Being “in the faith” is not about a label, a family tradition, or a feeling. “The faith” is the once‑for‑all delivered gospel (Jude 3), revealed in Scripture that thoroughly equips us (2 Timothy 3:16–17). Christ truly dwells in those who obey Him from the heart (Romans 6:17; Galatians 2:20) and refuse to call Him “Lord” while ignoring His word (Luke 6:46).
In a world that tells you, “Don’t judge yourself, just be you,” God says, “Examine yourselves.” Not to live in doubt, but to live in truth before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10). Let the mirror be the word of God (James 1:22–25): measure your beliefs, worship, and daily life by Scripture, repent where you’ve drifted, and make things right.
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Serious question for my Muslim friends: if Muhammad owned Black slaves and used terms like ‘raisin heads’ in the hadith, how does that fit with the claim that ‘there is NO racism in Islam’? If any Christian leader talked like that, you’d reject him immediately. Honest consistency matters when we’re talking about who speaks for God.
@GorillaCrypto@korrathetaymi Exactly. The verse rejects people who ONLY call Him ‘Lord’ while disobeying. That’s my point. The Qur’an still has ‘believers’ guaranteed Jannah (2:25; 4:122; 9:72) AND guaranteed a trip through Hell (19:71–72). Explain that contradiction, not Matthew.
Prayer, being sent, and calling the Father greater don’t refute deity; they describe role and relationship. In John, the Son is sent by the Father (John 5:23), yet is honored ‘just as’ the Father is honored, and calling the Father ‘greater’ fits exactly with Him ‘emptying Himself’ and taking the form of a servant (Philippians 2:5–8) while still having ‘all the fullness of the Godhead’ (Colossians 2:9). So answer this: if Jesus prays and is sent, *but also* is worshiped, called ‘My Lord and my God,’ and shares the Father’s honor, which side of that data are you allowed to throw away—and who gave you permission to do that?
‘My Lord and my God’ as ‘just an expression of shock’ doesn’t fit the actual text. Thomas is responding to Jesus *personally* after touching His wounds (John 20:27–28), and Jesus *blesses* his confession instead of correcting it (John 20:29). When people *accidentally* direct worship or divine honor to the wrong target (angels/apostles), they *immediately* shut it down (Acts 10:25–26; 14:11–15; Revelation 22:8–9).
So here’s the issue for you:
1) Where in the context does John hint this is ‘just an exclamation’ and not a confession?
2) Why does Jesus accept and affirm it instead of rebuking him like every faithful servant does?
You keep saying ‘you’re assuming’ but you haven’t given a single verse where a faithful servant of God allows someone to call him ‘my Lord and my God’ and simply accepts it.
Okay, let’s walk through your examples.
1) When men like Peter or Paul were treated as gods, they *immediately* rejected it (Acts 10:25–26; 14:11–15). Jesus *never* does that when Thomas says, ‘My Lord and my God!’ (John 20:28–29). Why is Jesus different?
2) In Daniel, the one being worshiped and served with ‘dominion, glory and a kingdom’ is the Son of Man *coming with the clouds of heaven* (Daniel 7:13–14), which Jesus applies to Himself (Mark 14:61–64). That’s not a random prophet.
So I’ve answered you: those are the symmetry breakers. Now you tell me plainly—when someone receives worship, divine titles, and an eternal dominion in Scripture, what category is that person in?
You keep using the same dumb examples with no clear substance. Understand context which complements precepts upon precepts. Kind, you are not making any sense 🤦🏿♂️.
Cool, then answer this directly: if praying, submitting, and calling the Father greater automatically means ‘not God,’ how do you explain that Muslims believe Allah is greater than all, yet still call Him God? Servant posture doesn’t cancel nature. Also, if ‘none of those prove Jesus is God,’ then in your mind what *would* count as a clear claim—spell it out so we’re not moving the goalposts. You are not substantiating nothing sir but making claims with no clear factual evidence 🤣🤣🤣.
Notice you didn’t answer what I asked. Looks like someone is not tracking 🤣. I gave examples where Jesus accepts worship and divine titles—now you’re changing the subject to ‘corruption’ and verses about His humanity and submission. As a Muslim you already believe Jesus prayed, called the Father greater, and bowed—Qur’an has Him doing those same servant things. So here’s my question again: if a prophet can pray, submit, and call God greater, *and* at the same time accept worship, claim ‘I AM,’ and be called ‘My Lord and my God’—what category does that put Jesus in for you? And if you’re going to say the Bible is corrupted, can you show me one first‑century source earlier than the New Testament manuscripts that says that, or are you just repeating a claim that appeared centuries later? Deal with this and please substantiate, I feel like I am just writing to the air………
Honestly, I respect you admitting that. Most people won’t even say ‘we could both be wrong.’ For me, that’s exactly the issue: when your highest authority never clearly supports the miracle stories, but later books do, I’m not betting my soul on the later speculation. If Qur’an and hadith can’t agree on something that basic about your prophet, why should I trust them on heaven, hell, and salvation?
Genuine question for you: if a mere prophet in your view can rightly accept worship, declare himself ‘I AM,’ claim oneness with the Father, and let people call him ‘My Lord and my God’ without correction… what *exactly* would Jesus have to say or do for you to finally admit He’s more than just a prophet?”
Good question. The ‘symmetry breaker’ is that when David and Daniel are honored, they immediately shut it down or redirect it (Daniel 2:30; Acts 10:25–26; 14:11–15), but Jesus *receives* worship over and over (Matthew 14:33; 28:9,17; John 9:35–38). Same with forgiveness: apostles only announce forgiveness on God’s terms (Acts 2:38; 10:43), but Jesus directly declares, ‘Your sins are forgiven you’ and His enemies say, ‘Who can forgive sins but God alone?’ (Mark 2:5–7). The difference is that prophets point away from themselves to God; Jesus keeps putting Himself in the place only God belongs.
‘Only a warner’ is exactly what I’ve been saying the Qur’an calls him (11:12; 13:7; 29:50). You keep talking about who actually performs the miracle, but you still haven’t explained why your *primary* revelation records specific moments from Muhammad’s life, has him deny miracle signs and call himself just a warner, while your later hadiths turn him into a miracle worker. That’s a contradiction between Qur’an and hadith that your ‘technically’ doesn’t fix.”
Two problems with that: first, I never said miracles prove someone is ‘godly’—Scripture itself warns about false signs (Matthew 24:24). Second, *you* just admitted his miracles ‘are not as important as the message,’ which actually explains why the Qur’an doesn’t bother to mention them… but your hadiths do. So again, your primary revelation presents Muhammad as a sign‑less warner (11:12; 13:7; 29:50), while your later books turn him into a miracle worker. That’s a contradiction between Qur’an and hadith, not between you and me.
Notice the pattern here: instead of explaining why the Qur’an never clearly records a single miracle for Muhammad, we keep running to ‘the book is the miracle’ and alleged science/numerology. But your own scholars admit the purpose of miracles is to confirm the messenger to *observers*—and even then, the Qur’an has Muhammad answer miracle demands by saying he’s only a warner (11:12; 13:7; 29:50). If the Qur’an is really the final, perfect revelation, why does it stay completely silent on the very miracle stories your later hadiths depend on? That tension between Qur’an and hadith is exactly what you still haven’t resolved.