@Jonatha04031958 I guess it depends on what they are doing in that territory. If they sit in Belgorod and launch missiles into Ukraine they *will* continue to attack those systems and no one will be able to stop them.
the us/nato objective vis russia should (and must) be the withdrawal of russian troops from ukraine
it should not (and cannot) be the destruction of the russian military
the latter risks a war we do not want and cannot afford
@Jonatha04031958 I'd hope that is more or less the American position. I would find it wildly irresponsible if there is someone knocking around out there with some Cold War
@adamnvillani Some of them did. I guess it's all way too late once you start a genocidal war. I have no idea where we have gone once The Left of all people has defined some insane idea that you have to trade with genociders.
Do you know why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941?
Because the US imposed a total trade embargo.
And then an oil embargo.
With the explicit aim of crushing Japan's economy.
And ever after always claimed:
“The Japanese attacked us for no reason whatsoever!”
@lurkernonumbers To the extent it's true the Japanese were repeatedly given a choice "Quit the genocidal war in China or we quit selling you the gas to wage it". They picked option 3 which was "screw you, we will seize oil from other countries and keep on trucking".
I'm edging up my threat level on chemical warfare in Ukraine. If it gets used it will likely be on conventionally pinned down forces and exterminate the defenders like bugs. This is how it usually gets used.
The US response to the Russian Victory Day parade should be a tour de force of unthinkable things to them A parade of heathy 70-year-old men and sober children.