// 4.7 spoilers
I haven’t been here in a long time, but:
I have been vindicated by Bedtime Story. The Sinner is Vedrfolnir, Dainsleif’s ‘brother’— and who better than his sibling to narrate his very own introduction post via prophecy, as “the Visionary”?
// Genshin spoilers
After completing the Archon Quest Caribert, I noticed something:
That the “self-proclaimed prophet” in Dainsleif’s introduction and “the one who understands fate” in the description for Caribert actually use the exact same term, just translated differently.
With all that being said, why is Teyvat safe?
The Narwhal is a being “from another world” that has infiltrated Teyvat. Surely, this means other worlds know of Teyvat, and in accordance with the Dark Forest hypothesis, they should have already destroyed Teyvat preemptively.
@skating_scooter Any large bookstore near you should carry the English translation in the science fiction section :D “Three Body Problem” by Cixin Liu and its two sequels, “the Dark Forest” and “Death’s End”
@jinx3155 We don’t know 😭 Teyvat is a continent (Version 1.0 CN says “welcome to Teyvat continent”) but we don’t know whether it qualifies as an entire world/universe on its own for multiverse theories
The All-Devouring Narwhal’s description suggests the universe outside Teyvat may be teeming with life, yet paradoxically, none of them have made contact with Teyvat.
This is the cosmological principle of the Dark Forest hypothesis, which may explain why Teyvat has a firmament.
@_Exuberant_ This is described in Before Sun and Moon and Neuvillette’s character stories: PO won against the dragons, then waged war against a “second who came”, which caused mass destruction. We don’t know what happened after except they made the Gnoses out of the Third Descender’s remains.
@homulillyy No digo que nadie pueda entrar en Teyvat, ya que los Descendientes existen. Los seres externos no pueden atacar Teyvat desde lejos, pero tal vez puedan "infiltrarse" en Teyvat. (aplicación de traducción, disculpas si hay errores)
@_Exuberant_ Based on working evidence, (most likely) Phanes won against the Second Who Came. He wouldn’t have colonised his own civilisation, but prevented it from being colonised by other forces.
@jinx3155 We don’t know 😭 Teyvat is a continent (Version 1.0 CN says “welcome to Teyvat continent”) but we don’t know whether it qualifies as an entire world/universe on its own for multiverse theories
@_Exuberant_ It’s suggested here, and assumed based on existing lore, that Phanes/Primordial One is the current Celestia. Which may or may not be true, but lines up with what Nahida said about the First Descender
@LukynkaCze Meanwhile, further descenders arrive via close-range infiltration— probably because Teyvat cannot be destroyed from afar, only entered or exited from nearby.
https://t.co/0cr8TtZINh
It therefore tracks that “the universe has been constantly trying to infiltrate Teyvat”, because hostile alien civilisations following the Dark Forest principle can’t destroy it from the outside… so it needs to be destroyed from the inside.
@LukynkaCze I talk about this in the thread! The first descender (heavenly principles) probably erected the firmament first. The dark forest principle is therefore averted because civilisations outside teyvat cannot destroy it— only observe, like Otto with Dvalin.
@fuemoon I do happen to know about the hoyoverse at large! (I played Honkai Impact for a brief time.) While the Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta certainly factor into this somehow, I’m not sure enough of Teyvat’s universe structure to add these elements to my theories.
Me when I read Kaeya’s “About Fischl” line in CN and realise he’s called himself “royal progeny of a last reigning dynasty”, meaning we’ve known the Alberichs were royal(ish) since 1.0 - this was later properly told to us in the secret letters of 2.8 Hidden Strife.
Don’t you like it when you get to use all of the characters you’ve pulled over time instead of restricting yourself to Rational/Neuvillette hypercarry etc. for endgame content?
My Gaming, Wriothesley etc. are grateful for the opportunity to be used.
I saw someone say it and I totally agree:
Imaginarium Theater rewards you for horizontal investment (more built characters > more single character constellations) while the Spiral Abyss more often than not rewards vertical investment (two hypercarry teams can take you very far).
Some clarifications: the “civilisations must destroy each other” is a conclusion derived from the axioms “survival is paramount to civilisation”, and “growth is endless, but resources are finite.” Some excerpts from the book to clarify this (SPOILERS!):