@yoshiboy998988@Stan_Incarnated@fredcrx_ All of the mentioned seasons are great dribbling seasons, I'm not gonna argue further about that. Yes? Messi was really good in transition in his peak years, where he could combine his ball control and acceleration, lmao?
@RoziRMCF@fergielegacy_@someballfacts Even if you understand what he's saying “which is essentially just that Rooney played in tough conditions” it'd still be a weak argument, Messi was a primary reason why Barca played so well, Rooney's goal was also offside.
@yoshiboy998988@Stan_Incarnated@fredcrx_ Saying this while ignoring seasons like 06/07 - 08/09 where Messi was largely a winger and an ELITE wing dribbler, on top of being probably top 1-3 in the world at transitions as a false 9, yeah..i don't think i need to explain myself further.
@yoshiboy998988@Stan_Incarnated@fredcrx_ Yes, he's clearly “elite” at it, I'm not sure why you'd say I'm under the impression Messi's heading or anything else mentioned is something he's elite at, never implied that.
@ronnysznn@Lee_COD@fredcrx_@Astro_x_thunder Yeah..less risky in the sense that you have a lower risk of losing the ball, maybe it is more efficient? But I'm struggling to see your point, all of the best ever dribblers were typically known for their ability to beat large chunks of defenders, not for whatever you said here.
@ronnysznn@Lee_COD@fredcrx_@Astro_x_thunder Again, kicking and running is something that would typically happen on the wing a significant amount more than centrally, and like i already said, it's not more effective in comparison to Messi's central dribbling, due to the reasons already explained.
@yoshiboy998988@Stan_Incarnated@fredcrx_ Imagine actually believing this😭 you think Messi was not capable of running in a straight line with the ball at his feet? Which is literally what dribbling on the wing usually is.
@ronnysznn@Lee_COD@fredcrx_@Astro_x_thunder Well that's mostly irrelevant to what's actually better, it leads to less turnovers because it's also less dangerous and risky on average, (except maybe during counter attacks) which is again, more of team achievement and a pace race rather than actual dribbling.
@ronnysznn@Lee_COD@fredcrx_@Astro_x_thunder These are not “vague” statements at all, central dribbling typically has higher risk but also a higher reward rate because most of the best chances occur in the central zones in and around the box, i mentioned Messi... because he's central dribbling is obviously more lethal
@xyro_r@georgemcfc21@Sxne19iv2 Yeah well Messi isn't “Barcola” genius, he consistently does plays and scores goals that are down to his own individual ability rather than the team's structure, if you disagree you're simply confused.
@Stan_Incarnated@fredcrx_ I mean what evidence? Messi was always elite at getting past players in both “large space” and tight spaces, the former obviously occuring mostly on the wing.
@ronnysznn@Lee_COD@fredcrx_@Astro_x_thunder Sure, but central dribbling solves more tactical problems, eliminates numerical disadvantages, and has a higher chance of causing danger, (if succesful) so someone like Messi, whould be better off dribbling centrally, where he can maximize his threat/ability.
@a3hunna@Dharimaybe@switchswitc21@Heisenberg_era There is absolutely no correlation lol, Argentina have never beaten a single side convincingly (or by multiple goals) in Messi's entire WC career, especially in KO's. So no, they have never had an easy route, based on conditions in-game.