@OddysseyTalks Nobody cares how you look. It's the claim that you're a woman and the claim that you're a lesbian and you using women's spaces that pisses people off.
@DaviaFinch The behaviour they are copying is not innate to women though. Make up and long hair isn't an integral part of being female; it's learned stereotypes. These men copy femininity - which has nothing to do with being a woman. Nothing neurological makes you put on a dress.
@AdamZivo You can't consent for other men. It is less of an issue because the risks are asymmetrical but lots of men aren't comfortable with females in their spaces.
@ALBennett89@FondOfBeetles Here's Emma explaining why the chances of a woman having a Y chromosome and not knowing about it are near zero. She's polite and doesn't mention that you're incredibly thick with no clue about genetics.
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I’m going to unpack some of this.
1. The premise that women are unknowingly carting around a Y (with SRY) is massively over exaggerated. The risk of Surprise SRY is minimal.
2. The risk of Surprise SRY is, however, non-zero. But in reproductively healthy women who have had periods and, more definitively, had kids is as near to zero as one can map in science.
3. That is, if you are a person who got a period before 16yo (ish), who has ever been pregnant or who has had the kind of screens that are offered to women (like cervical screening) without any drama, I’d bet my house you don’t have SRY.
4. If you have proof you have popped eggs and/or seen your ovaries, you would be almost singular (literally in the scientific record, the second case to my knowledge) if you also have SRY, functional or otherwise. If that’s me, with my entirely healthy reproductive system and physiology, I’m writing myself into a paper.
5. If you are born appearing female but actually carting around a Y with an SRY, it will almost always make it’s presence felt during puberty. You won’t menstruate, your GP might then discover unusual anatomy etc. Nobody in the U.K. should be getting Surprise SRY.
6. Ironically, Mums to boys are the most likely confounder (via fetal microchimerism). It should not need to be said that picking up some cells from the baby boy you’ve carried in your belly doesn’t change your sex. The carrying of the baby boy, almost certainly from your own egg, refutes that. 🙄
7. If, despite being an apparently healthy woman, you get a Surprise SRY, that means you’re an interesting woman, not a man. It also means that you won’t be excluded from female sport. Because whatever your genetics, sport is divided on bodies.
8. The lay person’s fascination with genetics and the cultural position that DSDs are “just normal variation” has led a fair amount of even normally-sensible people down a dumb rabbit hole. They are medical conditions that are really rare. 1/20k is a binned frequency that we use in genetics to describe things that are really rare. It’s not a measured number, it’s almost qualitative.
@PeregrineT49351 They manage to police the age categories. I haven't seen Parkrun celebrating a 30 year old breaking an under 16 record. They seem to manage to record age fairly accurately.
@waslottie@helenstaniland Male inclusion is an issue re safety, privacy, dignity. You need to prove why exclusion applies to some men but not to others ie you. Blind men have a low sex offending rate. We don't let them in women's spaces though - because they are men. That's all we need to know.
@ManySuchCases I know it's larping, I know she's just intruding in men's spaces, but if it's actually true it just makes me sad. What are these kids doing to themselves? All that mental energy put into trying to be something you can never be. Just accept yourself as you are.
@chochlo In thousands of hours of observing and interviewing children the early education pioneers did not come across children with a 'gender identity'. In thousands of observations Piaget didn't mention it once. It's a modern phenomenon in children caused by social contagion.
@stealth_riot Wanted? She was 14, caught up in a social contagion and needing psychiatric help. Doctors are supposed to be ethical and no ethical medic would perform irreversible cosmetic surgery on a 14 year old, however much the child supposedly thought it would help their mental health.
@Look_N2MyEyez@helenstaniland Men increase risk and compromise women's privacy and dignity. Transwomen are men. There are no safeguarding protocols that apply to some men but not to others. There are no special men.
@KirstiMiller30@rejserin We don't allow men who deliberately hobble their athletic performance into Women's sports, regardless of whether it's through hormones or any other drug. Nobody thinks diabetic men should be in the women's category because their meds slow them down. Male body advantage remains.
@Gaynotqueer1 To be fair the 'lady' on the right with the shovel hands looks like he could med-evac a gurney holding Giant Haystacks down 20 flights of stairs on his own.
@sappholives83 Pure fiction. Written as a fantasy of passing. He dreams of passing, but actually no men are joking about pregnancy with him, and no women are treating him just like a woman. He would like them to but in reality he's the elephant in the room in every social interaction he has.