In case anyone feels the impulse to ask me “This you?” let me just answer this up front:
Yes, clearly. You know this already since you found that post looking through my post history. Yes, that was me, that’s what I said it, I fucking meant it, and I am not in the least bit ashamed of what I said. Don’t like it? Make an actual argument, prove me wrong, or fuck off.
Men shielding women in mass shootings is extensively documented. Aurora. Las Vegas. Tucson. Pulse. In each case, boyfriends and husbands died covering their partners with their own bodies.
The reverse, a woman physically dying to shield a male partner, is nearly absent from the documented record.
Carnegie Hero Fund data: ~90% of its 10,563 civilian heroism medals went to men. A peer-reviewed analysis found ~92% of life-risking rescue acts were performed by males, with deaths more likely when the rescuer knew the victim.
Women’s extreme self-sacrifice is real but channels differently; e.g., protecting children and kidney donation.
The asymmetry isn’t that women don’t sacrifice. It’s that the form and target of that sacrifice differs sharply by sex, and in the specific domain of dying for one’s partner, the gap is striking, and the notion of women dying for their man is basically nonsensical, outside of examples in fiction and antiquity.
@jess_ann_pin I’ve never heard a man degrade a woman for that. I have seen men ridicule the substance consumption , high time preference, and/or low impulse control when she declares that she was raped after regretting her decision.
You’re actually wrong about them first two. https://t.co/tCYB8ARmgZ
This is why there are 2 dating strategies major attraction strategies:,
1) instant physical attraction based on traits that proxy well for genetic reproductive fitness, and 2) attraction after repeated regular interactions (I.e. getting to know someone can result in attraction that didn’t exist previously)
What “hunter-gatherer thing?” Pre-agriculture, humans and protohumans were absolutely hunters and gatherers; with men doing more hunting (especially large game) and women doing more gathering and childcare.
Anthropologists have observed this pattern across many societies. The likely drivers are practical not ideological:
- Pregnancy and breastfeeding constrain mobility and risk tolerance.
- Large-game hunting often involves long absences, danger, and physical exertion; not compatible with childcare.
- Gathering provides stable calories close to camp and is compatible with childcare.
- Men, on average, have greater upper-body strength and throwing power.
There were exceptions to the rule, but the broader pattern is clear, and feminist revisionism won’t change that.
So WTF are you talking about?
(Also, OPs post was silly.)
@EATMYSHTANDHAIR@figscookie@kingofthehood89@cosmicjester@ceaselessjelq I said women, not children. Being intentionally obtuse isn’t just tedious and uninteresting, it’s an implicit admission of your own limited faculties. You clearly have nothing of value to add to this or likely any conversation.
I know an older couple; extremely intelligent. She got a perfect score on the SATs and was attending Oxford. She had a natural talent and interest in languages. She posted a note on a bulletin board in one of the well trafficked common areas. The note was written in one of Tolkien’s Elvish languages. Her (future) husband read/translated the note, and wrote back, and that’s how they met and fell in love. They were married for 40 years or so before he passed. I think it’s one of the most endearing stories. Comparing their love story to “wanna Netflix and chill,” fills me with pity and a sense that we have lost something that we can’t even fully comprehend how precious it is, and how grave the loss actually is.
You’re funny.
OP: it’s crazy how people are holding out hope for sex they aren’t getting on this subreddit.
YOU (apropos nothing): women gain weight. Men’s fault. Maybe if… blah blah.
ME: mirroring your reasoning
YOU: stop changing the subject!
You were the one going on a rant about men and post-childbirth weight gain, when nobody was talking about any of that. You can see that now, right?
Would you accept a job offer not knowing what the job responsibilities were, or what the pay or benefits were? No.
Would you sign a rental contract for a property you haven’t seen, and don’t know the rent amount, the terms, or how many years you will be agreeing to lease the property? No.
A prenup is the same dynamic. A prenup doesn’t have to be so asymmetric. The main point is to sort out the terms of how a divorce would be handled if it ever came to pass, as opposed to trying to do that at the time of divorce when things are likely heated, or feelings are hurt, and the mindsets are adversarial. I think it makes way more sense to iron these details out from a place where you still love each other, as opposed to in a resentment fueled state because of who knows what future events.
It isn’t fatalistic any more than having life insurance would mean you’re morbid and obsessed with death.
Would you accept a job offer not knowing what the job responsibilities were, or what the pay or benefits were? No.
Would you sign a rental contract for a property you haven’t seen, and don’t know the rent amount, the terms, or how many years you will be agreeing to lease the property? No.
A prenup is the same dynamic. A prenup doesn’t have to be so asymmetric. The main point is to sort out the terms of how a divorce would be handled if it ever came to pass, as opposed to trying to do that at the time of divorce when things are likely heated, or feelings are hurt, and the mindsets are adversarial. I think it makes way more sense to iron these details out from a place where you still love each other, as opposed to in a resentment fueled state because of who knows what future events.
It isn’t fatalistic any more than having life insurance would mean you’re morbid and obsessed with death.
ok, and so, when a man “lets himself go” and puts on extra weight and gets a gut, that’s usually/mostly the wife who’s the issue?
Not that hard to imagine. If the wife made/packed her husband lunch for work and cooked him healthy meals for dinner he wouldn’t be grabbing fast food for lunch and and either fast food again for dinner or whatever processed food he can toss in the microwave and feed himself with when he’s drained after a long day at work.
@figscookie@kingofthehood89@cosmicjester@ceaselessjelq FUN FACT: if a woman gives birth when she is young (and coincidentally, at optimal fertility), her body will recover much easier and more fully, due to higher collagen content in her skin and other factors that come with youth and decline with age.
@Rainmaker1973 That doesn’t look like Brownian motion. Why are large groups of molecules moving in unison? Even stranger, why are those groups moving in unison with other groups located elsewhere in the cytoplasm?
Think of it this way. If someone said “I dropped out of college” you wouldn’t say “omg, that’s so brave and amazing! Woohoo!” However there are plenty of people who are millionaire and even billionaires who dropped out of college.
Similarly, deciding to not have children isn’t a virtue. If you happen to use th fact that you didn’t have children to accomplish things of real value to society, civilization and/or your fellow man, then there is reason for praise, and perhaps even emulation. Same as the college example.
She stepped up to declare the way she chose to live life was some kind of ideal. I don’t think choosing to not take responsibility, not doing things that are hard but important roles, not taking what you learned in life and passing on your wisdom to the next generation, I don’t think choosing a path that avoids all this is inherently good even if you love the fact that you don’t have stretch marks or saggy breasts or gray hair from children. It isn’t all about you. If you can’t fulfill the most fundamental role of our species, at least use that time and energy for something worthwhile. Real estate agent, HR specialist, or marketing director ain’t it; you’re really just being selfish.
She was the one to put her life decisions out there like they were a flex. I’m actually not an asshole. I just don’t like people who made bad life choices trying to persuade others to do the same. Not even sure if that was her. I called it out and she deleted her post. You called me out, and I laid it out. We don’t agree, and probably won’t see eye to eye, but unless you are truly living an incredibly full life of purpose, like curing Parkinson’s or something, you’re most likely missing out on a huge part of the human experience whether you realize it or not, and I don’t want people for whom that is the case trying to make other people make the same mistake. My goal isn’t to be mean.