@Mikmag1776 Not Catholic, but if “it is finished” carries all the weight you’re trying to out on it, was the resurrection not necessarily? Would the work of salvation be compete without it? If no, then it can’t mean all you’re trying to say it means.
@Christo28896935 “But you *have* come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the *spirits of just men made perfect*”
@ScottRoberts There's no period where you placed it, that's half a sentence, keep reading. There is only one mediator, "Who gave His life a ransom for all". Caths/Orthos happily agree. The Mother of God and the Saints don't mediate on the same level as Christ.
@ComeYeSinners “Lo, I am with you always, even until the end of the age”. Same “until”. Will Jesus be leaving us after the end of the world? We have this even in English. “She remained a Christian until her death.” Does anyone imagine a chage in that state after death?
@ComeYeSinners Always important to remember the Bible wasn’t written in English. “Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.” Same “until”. Was Timothy not to preach, read the scriptures or teach again after Paul showed up?
@Christo28896935@Stevieb8081 Moses, the Prophets and Judges, were all mediators between God and Man. The Apostles and authors of scripture play a mediating roll between God and man. The lesser mediators don’t detract from Christ unique mediation, they participate in it.
@Christo28896935@Stevieb8081 There is one mediator…*who gave his life a ransom for all* provides important context. Christ is the mediator par excellence, the only one who gave His life a ransom, that’s unites God and man. But the scriptures are full of other, lesser mediators.
@YeFutureSaint@GeoffKlein3 Seems like Rome implicitly concedes in every Eastern Rite liturgy when they allow them to exclude it from the recitation of the creed.
@Blueberrier0341 This feels like what CS Lewis was taking about when he referenced “chronological snobbery”. No one understood the faith we before the 15th century?