Shane Fletcher

Born again atheist after decades of being an unquestioning Christian.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto without having to accept that it has been proven wrong.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto That’s not what the quote means. It means, you can consider something as if it was truthful, without actually accepting it as being truthful. So you could consider the hypothetical, of something you believed being proven wrong, and therefore think about those consequences,

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Sorry. I meant I don’t understand why you are bringing it up. What’s it got to do with our conversation. Obviously I know what it means. I use it every time I look at the world from a creationists point of view.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Yes. You would be swayed 0. So the evidence is worth 0. It’s absolutely not hard to understand that.

Again, I don’t understand what considering ideas without accepting them means.

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@SamuelMelton5 You’re repeating your belief, not giving a reason you believe it. Why do you believe it?

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto 3. You did answer my question eventually. You gave an answer of 0. The best evidence you supplied, was worth 0 to you. I’m not saying that. You did. There is no reason anyone should look to evidence, that is worthless.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto 1. Do you honestly think I’m stomping my feet and running off? Has any of my behaviour indicated I’m that type of person?
2. This is not a “you against me” situation. I’m not trying to win against you. I am looking for the truth, and the best reasons to believe it.

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@SamuelMelton5 What’s the best reason you have, to believe that evolution is defeated by entropy?

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@SUBRATA30016572 Of course. I find it harder to believe Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, after people could see him in inaction for 4 years.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto So anyway, if don’t have evidence that affects your belief in God by more than 0, then you can’t expect me, or anyone, to find that evidence convincing. And I don’t. Not sure you do either. I think you want to believe it, and will prop it up with anything you can find.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Yes, but what were you referring to in our conversation. That idea seemed to come out of nowhere.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto If you can’t hope for something you know nothing about, then people would never believe false things. And the world is full of people believing contradictory things. So some of them must be hoping for something they know nothing about.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto At no point did I say it should.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto It should be defined to some parameters.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Of course you can. If your God doesn’t exist, that’s exactly what you’re doing. And if He does exist, you have Hindus, Muslims and Buddhist’s doing exactly that.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto There is a graduation of intelligence among people too. If it’s evident our soul/spirit sets us apart, you should be able to supply evidence.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Why are you HOPING for something you KNOW of? If you know it, you don’t need to hope. And if you’re hoping, it’s for something you don’t know.

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@SamuelMelton5 @ChuckCallesto Other animals have those things.

And beliefs are not choices. You can’t choose what you believe. You believe for reasons. I want to know if you have good reasons for your belief, or bad ones.