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There's nothing correct in this rag. Because yes it’s a rag, there are no other words. But not just any rag, a dangerous rag. 🧵👇 I. Let's start by saying that the mandate of the ECB is to manage price stability. Writing nonsense about Bitcoin does not seem to me to be part of this mandate, so I would be glad if public money didn't finance this kind of thing, especially when the main mandate has not even been achieved for quite a bit of time. It is scandalous that the credibility, time and money of a public institution is used to hit a particular asset. I recall here that it is also on this precise point that the SEC lost its case in the United States, having shown that they were not "merit neutral", that is to say indifferent to the merits and asset qualities. What's more, if Bitcoin is not a currency as they like to repeat, WHY ARE THEY WRITING ABOUT IT AT ALL?! II. Let us also note that the article is seriously lacking in sources. Almost all of the assertions are unsubstantiated. When they are, for the vast majority it is a referral to opinion articles in the press. There is only one academic source: Cong et al. (2023) whose abstract tells us "Our sample consists of 29 centralized exchanges, among which the regulated ones feature transaction patterns consistently observed in financial markets and nature.". Oddly, the ECB paper draws a completely different conclusion: "wash trading accounts for 77.5% of the total trading volume on unregulated exchanges". I continue with the sources to show you the immense bad faith, and in particular in the case of supposed money laundering and financing of terrorism by cryptos. “Bitcoin remains the top choice for money laundering in the digital world, with illicit addresses transferring $23.8 billion in crypto in 2022, marking a 68.0% increase from the previous year.” The source indicated is "Chainanalysis 2024". We will overlook the fact that the company is called Chainalysis. Source links to “2024 Crypto Crime Trends: Illicit Activity Down as Scamming and Stolen Funds Fall, But Ransomware and Darknet Markets See Growth”, January 18.” https://t.co/WtM2xDXkAj I don't even know if I need to continue... The title of the report is literally "Illicit Activity Down." But let's continue anyway because it's juicy. We are told that activity is increasing even though it is decreasing. The reason is quite simple : the authors of the article take the previous reference year (2022) compared to that of even before (2021). Why ? Because it serves their message. Between 2021 and 2022, illicit activity had increased (in value, not necessarily in proportion). Between 2022 and 2023, it has decreased. So it doesn't interest them, and they go back to the year before, despite the fact that it would obviously have been more relevant to take this year's figure rather than arbitrarily that of the previous year. Moreover, in terms of order of magnitude, to tell us that Bitcoin is the "top choice" for laundering when it represents ~$20 billion is to mechanically assert that all other means are inferior, and consequently that there is LESS than 20 billion laundered each year in euros or dollars. Remember that the Pandora Papers ALONE are $11,000 billion in perfectly fiat currency. The few articles that investigated the subject of illicit activities pointed to a proportion of around 1% of the GDP of the euro zone in 2010, or 110 billion (15 years ago). https://t.co/vRcOWNThxb Bad faith is evident to the point of ONLY selecting the years that interest them on graphs which do provide more exhaustive data. At this stage, we are on the edge of pure and simple lies, and, in any case, it is plain and conscious disinformation. I say conscious because they THEMSELVES cite the 2024 Chainalysis article, and so they have seen and read it! They do not ignore this information. III. Beyond the opinion-based sources, the ambient bad faith, the disinformation, and the fact that the authors are not experts and are in full conflict of interest (one of the authors works specifically on the digital euro in addition... .), we obviously find a pile of false assertions, all debunked, or opinions presented as facts: 1) “Today, Bitcoin transactions are still inconvenient, slow, and costly.” Compared to what ? A SEPA transfer that takes 5 working days? An international transfer that costs on average between 5 and 10% of the transaction? Remember that if we compare Bitcoin with payment cards, we are comparing apples and pears. VISA & Mastercard do not do transactions, they do authorizations. And so we have to compare this upper layer to the Lightning Network which perfectly sustains comparison. 2) "Outside the darknet, the hidden part of the internet used for criminal activities, it is hardly used for payments at all." False, completely false, documented, and admitted by the police or intelligence services. Whether it is the FBI which is delighted that criminals use cryptos, or the gendarmerie or even TracFin in France, it is now admitted, including among detractors, that it is not mainly used for criminal activities. In the National Money Laudering Risk Assessment 2022 from the US Department of the Treasury, we can read "the use of virtual assets for money laundering remains far below that of fiat currency and more traditional methods" or even "the size and scope of drug proceeds generated on the darknet and laundered via virtual assets remain low in comparison to cash-based retail street sales. Worldwide sales on major darknet markets appear to have remained modest when compared to overall illicit drug sales. For example, during 2017–2020, drug-related darknet market sales amounted to approximately $315 million annually, or about 0.2 percent of the combined estimated illicit annual retail drug sales in the United States and European Union." https://t.co/7NGQ0Zk9tR I would add that in 2022, the Bitcoin network processed more transaction value than VISA (+$10,000 billion), which is not bad for something supposed to have failed. 3) “Bitcoin is still not suitable as an investment.” It's just the best performing asset in 15 years. 4) “the mining of Bitcoin using the proof of work mechanism continues to pollute the environment on the same scale as entire countries” The authors have not opened the latest academic publications: You et al. (Cornell), Ibanez et al. (University College London), Bruno et al. (University of North Carolina), etc. which ALL points to the opportunity to use Bitcoin to green electricity grids and reduce methane emissions. I guess they also didn't ask those who have already tried, i.e. the Texas grid operator, ERCOT, whose ex-CEO Brad Jones called Bitcoin a blessing for the stability of its network and an incentive to increase the ENR mix. No, the authors prefer evoking the famous “evidence of its huge negative environmental impact.” Which ones? We won't know, since the assertion, although serious, is simply not sourced. As we suspect, the authors probably preferred to give credibility to the famous Digiconomist, a person who has no expertise and has been wrong by major orders of magnitude for more than 5 years on everything he says on this subject, who lies (he declares in the Cell Reports paper that he has no conflict of interest, which is obviously false since he works in a central bank), and who moreover is not even researcher, since he has not finished his doctorate. This seems to be a better pedigree than Fengqi You (mentioned), from the renowned Cornell University, whose research specialties include computer science and energy transition, the two areas that interest us here, and which since 2010 has been honored with fifteen awards recognizing the quality of his research work. To tell the truth, the authors probably don't care at all about the environment, but it gives them a practical angle of attack to attack an object that competes with them. IV. Finally, I add that the article alone is a mountain of contradictions. 1) The value of Bitcoin would be zero because it does not produce "cash flow (unlike real estate) or dividends (stocks), cannot be used productively (commodities), and offers no social benefit (gold jewelry) or subjective appreciation based on outstanding abilities (works of art)." Does the euro produce cash flows? No Does the euro produce dividends? No Can the euro be “used productively”? No Does the euro offer “social benefits” like jewelry? No Is the euro subject to subjective appreciation based on extraordinary qualities? No So we understand that the euro is worth zero? 2) Bitcoin, as we have seen, is supposed to be the “top choice” for money laundering & terrorism. Yet further in the article, the authors rebel against regulatory fatalism, and bring out the killer argument to encourage legislators not to sit idly by: “But Bitcoin transactions offer pseudonymity rather than complete anonymity, as each transaction is linked to a unique address on the public blockchain. Therefore, Bitcoin has been a cursed tool for anonymity, facilitating illicit activities and leading to legal action against offenders by the tracing of transactions". Great, so in the same article, Bitcoin manages to be the best way to carry out illicit activities, but also a “cursed” way which allows “legal actions against offenders” because we can trace the transactions. In. The. Same. Article. V. Finally, the authors wonder why Bitcoin is not yet banned (“it seems wrong that Bitcoin should not be subject to strong regulatory intervention, up to practically forbidding it”), and come to suggest actions to legislator (Reminder, this has no place here, since it does not fall under the mandate of price stability). What are these actions? "The Bitcoin network has a governance structure in which roles are assigned to identified individuals. Authorities could decide that these should be prosecuted in view of the large scale of illegal payments using Bitcoin." First, Bitcoin governance does not have roles assigned to individuals. There are roles, yes, but the individuals who participate in them are interchangeable. They are also not necessarily identified, see solo miners. Among those roles, there are core devs, miners, nodes, exchange platforms etc. Everyone has their little power, but no one controls Bitcoin alone. Let us incidentally recall for example that a few years ago, during the Blocksize Wars, miners & exchange platforms lost their battle against nodes. So what does the authors’ not-at-all-innocent little phrase mean? That we're going to take the core devs from their homes and put them in jail? For which motive ? Because they wrote code? Should Einstein have been put in jail for opening the way to work on nuclear power? Someone who sells a kitchen knife has to go to jail because a buyer committed a crime with it? All this on the basis of a “large scale of illegal payments” which is false, and which they themselves debunked in their own article. I'm sorry, but where is this going ? I reiterate that Bitcoin is a test for democracies, and that in Europe we are failing every step of the test. What is happening is serious. Let's stop the liberticidal delusions and authoritarian or even totalitarian excesses now. It's a political fight.

StachAlex's tweet photo. There's nothing correct in this rag. Because yes it’s a rag, there are no other words. But not just any rag, a dangerous rag.

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I. Let's start by saying that the mandate of the ECB is to manage price stability. Writing nonsense about Bitcoin does not seem to me to be part of this mandate, so I would be glad if public money didn't finance this kind of thing, especially when the main mandate has not even been achieved for quite a bit of time.

It is scandalous that the credibility, time and money of a public institution is used to hit a particular asset. I recall here that it is also on this precise point that the SEC lost its case in the United States, having shown that they were not "merit neutral", that is to say indifferent to the merits and asset qualities.

What's more, if Bitcoin is not a currency as they like to repeat, WHY ARE THEY WRITING ABOUT IT AT ALL?!

II. Let us also note that the article is seriously lacking in sources. Almost all of the assertions are unsubstantiated. When they are, for the vast majority it is a referral to opinion articles in the press.

There is only one academic source: Cong et al. (2023) whose abstract tells us "Our sample consists of 29 centralized exchanges, among which the regulated ones feature transaction patterns consistently observed in financial markets and nature.".

Oddly, the ECB paper draws a completely different conclusion: "wash trading accounts for 77.5% of the total trading volume on unregulated exchanges".

I continue with the sources to show you the immense bad faith, and in particular in the case of supposed money laundering and financing of terrorism by cryptos.

“Bitcoin remains the top choice for money laundering in the digital world, with illicit addresses transferring $23.8 billion in crypto in 2022, marking a 68.0% increase from the previous year.” The source indicated is "Chainanalysis 2024". We will overlook the fact that the company is called Chainalysis.

Source links to “2024 Crypto Crime Trends: Illicit Activity Down as Scamming and Stolen Funds Fall, But Ransomware and Darknet Markets See Growth”, January 18.”

https://t.co/WtM2xDXkAj

I don't even know if I need to continue... The title of the report is literally "Illicit Activity Down."

But let's continue anyway because it's juicy. We are told that activity is increasing even though it is decreasing. The reason is quite simple : the authors of the article take the previous reference year (2022) compared to that of even before (2021).

Why ? Because it serves their message. Between 2021 and 2022, illicit activity had increased (in value, not necessarily in proportion). Between 2022 and 2023, it has decreased. So it doesn't interest them, and they go back to the year before, despite the fact that it would obviously have been more relevant to take this year's figure rather than arbitrarily that of the previous year.

Moreover, in terms of order of magnitude, to tell us that Bitcoin is the "top choice" for laundering when it represents ~$20 billion is to mechanically assert that all other means are inferior, and consequently that there is LESS than 20 billion laundered each year in euros or dollars.

Remember that the Pandora Papers ALONE are $11,000 billion in perfectly fiat currency. The few articles that investigated the subject of illicit activities pointed to a proportion of around 1% of the GDP of the euro zone in 2010, or 110 billion (15 years ago).

https://t.co/vRcOWNThxb

Bad faith is evident to the point of ONLY selecting the years that interest them on graphs which do provide more exhaustive data. At this stage, we are on the edge of pure and simple lies, and, in any case, it is plain and conscious disinformation. I say conscious because they THEMSELVES cite the 2024 Chainalysis article, and so they have seen and read it! They do not ignore this information.

III. Beyond the opinion-based sources, the ambient bad faith, the disinformation, and the fact that the authors are not experts and are in full conflict of interest (one of the authors works specifically on the digital euro in addition... .), we obviously find a pile of false assertions, all debunked, or opinions presented as facts:

1) “Today, Bitcoin transactions are still inconvenient, slow, and costly.”

Compared to what ? A SEPA transfer that takes 5 working days? An international transfer that costs on average between 5 and 10% of the transaction?

Remember that if we compare Bitcoin with payment cards, we are comparing apples and pears. VISA & Mastercard do not do transactions, they do authorizations. And so we have to compare this upper layer to the Lightning Network which perfectly sustains comparison.

2) "Outside the darknet, the hidden part of the internet used for criminal activities, it is hardly used for payments at all."

False, completely false, documented, and admitted by the police or intelligence services. Whether it is the FBI which is delighted that criminals use cryptos, or the gendarmerie or even TracFin in France, it is now admitted, including among detractors, that it is not mainly used for criminal activities.

In the National Money Laudering Risk Assessment 2022 from the US Department of the Treasury, we can read "the use of virtual assets for money laundering remains far below that of fiat currency and more traditional methods" or even "the size and scope of drug proceeds generated on the darknet and laundered via virtual assets remain low in comparison to cash-based retail street sales. Worldwide sales on major darknet markets appear to have remained modest when compared to overall illicit drug sales. For example, during 2017–2020, drug-related darknet market sales amounted to approximately $315 million annually, or about 0.2 percent of the combined estimated illicit annual retail drug sales in the United States and European Union."

https://t.co/7NGQ0Zk9tR

I would add that in 2022, the Bitcoin network processed more transaction value than VISA (+$10,000 billion), which is not bad for something supposed to have failed.

3) “Bitcoin is still not suitable as an investment.”

It's just the best performing asset in 15 years.

4) “the mining of Bitcoin using the proof of work mechanism continues to pollute the environment on the same scale as entire countries”

The authors have not opened the latest academic publications: You et al. (Cornell), Ibanez et al. (University College London), Bruno et al. (University of North Carolina), etc. which ALL points to the opportunity to use Bitcoin to green electricity grids and reduce methane emissions. I guess they also didn't ask those who have already tried, i.e. the Texas grid operator, ERCOT, whose ex-CEO Brad Jones called Bitcoin a blessing for the stability of its network and an incentive to increase the ENR mix.

No, the authors prefer evoking the famous “evidence of its huge negative environmental impact.” Which ones? We won't know, since the assertion, although serious, is simply not sourced.

As we suspect, the authors probably preferred to give credibility to the famous Digiconomist, a person who has no expertise and has been wrong by major orders of magnitude for more than 5 years on everything he says on this subject, who lies (he declares in the Cell Reports paper that he has no conflict of interest, which is obviously false since he works in a central bank), and who moreover is not even researcher, since he has not finished his doctorate. This seems to be a better pedigree than Fengqi You (mentioned), from the renowned Cornell University, whose research specialties include computer science and energy transition, the two areas that interest us here, and which since 2010 has been honored with fifteen awards recognizing the quality of his research work.

To tell the truth, the authors probably don't care at all about the environment, but it gives them a practical angle of attack to attack an object that competes with them.

IV. Finally, I add that the article alone is a mountain of contradictions.

1) The value of Bitcoin would be zero because it does not produce "cash flow (unlike real estate) or dividends (stocks), cannot be used productively (commodities), and offers no social benefit (gold jewelry) or subjective appreciation based on outstanding abilities (works of art)."

Does the euro produce cash flows? No
Does the euro produce dividends? No
Can the euro be “used productively”? No
Does the euro offer “social benefits” like jewelry? No
Is the euro subject to subjective appreciation based on extraordinary qualities? No

So we understand that the euro is worth zero?

2) Bitcoin, as we have seen, is supposed to be the “top choice” for money laundering & terrorism.

Yet further in the article, the authors rebel against regulatory fatalism, and bring out the killer argument to encourage legislators not to sit idly by: “But Bitcoin transactions offer pseudonymity rather than complete anonymity, as each transaction is linked to a unique address on the public blockchain. Therefore, Bitcoin has been a cursed tool for anonymity, facilitating illicit activities and leading to legal action against offenders by the tracing of transactions".

Great, so in the same article, Bitcoin manages to be the best way to carry out illicit activities, but also a “cursed” way which allows “legal actions against offenders” because we can trace the transactions.

In. The. Same. Article.

V. Finally, the authors wonder why Bitcoin is not yet banned (“it seems wrong that Bitcoin should not be subject to strong regulatory intervention, up to practically forbidding it”), and come to suggest actions to legislator (Reminder, this has no place here, since it does not fall under the mandate of price stability).

What are these actions?

"The Bitcoin network has a governance structure in which roles are assigned to identified individuals. Authorities could decide that these should be prosecuted in view of the large scale of illegal payments using Bitcoin."

First, Bitcoin governance does not have roles assigned to individuals. There are roles, yes, but the individuals who participate in them are interchangeable. They are also not necessarily identified, see solo miners.

Among those roles, there are core devs, miners, nodes, exchange platforms etc. Everyone has their little power, but no one controls Bitcoin alone. Let us incidentally recall for example that a few years ago, during the Blocksize Wars, miners & exchange platforms lost their battle against nodes.

So what does the authors’ not-at-all-innocent little phrase mean?

That we're going to take the core devs from their homes and put them in jail? For which motive ? Because they wrote code?

Should Einstein have been put in jail for opening the way to work on nuclear power?

Someone who sells a kitchen knife has to go to jail because a buyer committed a crime with it?

All this on the basis of a “large scale of illegal payments” which is false, and which they themselves debunked in their own article.

I'm sorry, but where is this going ?

I reiterate that Bitcoin is a test for democracies, and that in Europe we are failing every step of the test. What is happening is serious.

Let's stop the liberticidal delusions and authoritarian or even totalitarian excesses now. It's a political fight.

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@CryptoParadyme Not yet

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There may be a whitelist for the @HYCHAIN_GAMES node sale.. And you may want to start by following @HYCHAIN_GAMES and retweeting this.. 🤔

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@IncomeSharks “Those in cash will be fine” – only if they time the bottom right.

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@Trader_Jibon Would be a gift

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@iamarkdev gm

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@Travis_in_Flint Oh there will be options

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@Hercules_NFT @AdonisHytopian imo the communication was usually good. But this time not and horrible timing. Recovery could take a while.

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@AdonisHytopian The uncertainty about the utility doesn’t help. I think it’s the worst timing to bring up the discussion for yet another change in direction. At a time when the whole crypto market turns around an alts are flying. Even TA related, could fuck up the structure of the chart.

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@LozzaFox Exactly this

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@klayy_eth @HYTOPIAgg @iamarkdev I think $topia will be a slow mover this bull cycle because all of this. No incentive to hold especially when you own a world because you earn anyway.

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@benshapiro Get your emotions in check. It’s a fact that people got manipulated into a pro-war stance on false information about the killing of babys and children. Asking for evidence has nothing to do with jew-hate.