Just got a DM from anon about this, it's EXACTLY what I'm talking about! I really don't think the people who attack others over fiction realize the REAL HARM they're causing to REAL VICTIMS, all in the name of "helping" fictional objects that can't be harmed in the first place...
Yes, conflating lolicon with pedophilia and child abuse harms victims of CSA who use such art and fiction as THERAPIST APPROVED AND SUGGESTED coping mechanisms... Imagine trying to go through therapy for your abuse as a child and people attack your art and give you POCD...
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus That is false, and is a great example of the harmful rhetoric I'm telling you that you need to change. I'm done trying to convince you. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, and I can't make you take the time to learn why what you're saying is harmful.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus I'm serious, I mean this sincerely.
You are saying harmful things. You are spreading misinformation. You need to learn more about what you're saying and why the things you want to fight against are bad, and how to actually fight them. What you're doing now is not helping.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus It's good that you understand they aren't the same, but you're still speaking about it in a way that is harmful and incorrect. Conflating things like this is bad for you, bad for the safety of children, and bad for victims of child sexual abuse.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus If you really think real child sexual exploitation is the same as being attracted to a cartoon that doesn't exist, I implore you to do basic research into why child exploitation is bad. You don't seem to understand the harm it does on even a basic level from how you talk about it
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus No. Your strawman is not getting you any points here, it's only further proving that you don't understand the line between fiction and reality.
Some people HAVE drawn things in reference to real children, and lolicons shun them for exploiting children.
https://t.co/dBUMcVqif0
@SylviaLCYume@Milk30944 So, if someone makes a sexual drawing of a real, living, breathing minor, it's not CSAM because itβs not a recording or photo of direct abuse. However, it IS CSEM because it sexually exploits the identity and image of a real child,
cont.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus Sexualizing your own sister or some theoretical real child and comparing them to objects is not the gotcha you seem to think it is. I told you already, I like art. Drawings. Reducing a real person with agency and thoughts to that of an object is not a good thing.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus Representations are not the real thing. If you can't understand that then you won't get anywhere at all with understanding why what you're saying is harmful to victims of CSA and people with serious mental disorders. Go look into the citations I sent, it's the least you can do.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus You should be aware before you decide to do that, though, those tip lines have asked people to stop sending in false reports about cartoons. It wastes valuable time that could be used to help real children in actual danger.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus Just because you don't understand something or think it's weird doesn't make it incorrect or immoral. This sort of thinking is why homosexuality is still illegal in so many places.
@43Indorex@Gabo_Magus That's correct. If you read what I said earlier you'd know that, but you've made it clear you don't actually want to learn, you just want to attack innocent people over your misconceptions.
@getoparadise Why do you all want me to be a pedophile that preys on children so bad? Literally publicly praying for it to be true.
I say MDNI because it is not psychologically safe for minors to interact with adult subjects like sexuality. I don't know why that's controversial.