@ubiquitousnewt Oh sorry if that was a bad explanation I don't believe epigenetics are multi generational markers like actual permanent gene mutations.
@ubiquitousnewt But again that does not mean I think environment is end all be all or that genetics don't matter, like I said things like genetic predisposition to physically being more sensitive to cortisol etc is going to drastically impact the development of neural pathways.
@ubiquitousnewt Yes they are 50/50 and environmental factors are more important because genes are a genetic predisposition. You don't need to have a genetic vulnerability to have poor emotional regulation. Epigenetics literally shows that environment can permanently alter gene expression
@ubiquitousnewt Again you keep saying I don't believe in genetic predisposition. The Ford study shows that the genetic vulnerability is the anti emotional regulation vulnerability and using learned regulation techniques cause the vulnerability to be essentially nullified. I keep saying
@ubiquitousnewt Which is all shown to be heavily impacted by a specific set of factors during perinatal development when behavioral pathways and self awareness start to form.
@ubiquitousnewt Which is what I am saying that the majority of behavioral genetics that are associated to emotional regulation are heavily predisposition based and still need proper and effective co regulation to strengthen positive trait response and counteract negatives.
@ubiquitousnewt Interesting study and it's only 10% higher than the studies I saw. Really hate that it's spread across a wide variety of measures that are used to measure self control for example this is the scale for self control used in one of the beaver studies. Sorry had to use AI to get
@ubiquitousnewt@Juha_the_Great You are right a child born with the genetic traits to be an incredible baseball player will accomplish that no matter what even if no one ever teaches them out to play baseball or if they even like it.
@Juha_the_Great@ubiquitousnewt A better example might be that children cry the same amount when they fall whether they are bleeding horribly or not. That's because their underdeveloped brain just knows fall = scary. They can't logically process through levels of what falling and the impact of it is.
@Juha_the_Great@ubiquitousnewt Emotional regulation is largely logical. For instance if something startles you initially your Amygdala kicks in with "death fight or run". Your prefrontal then basically kicks in with logic to override those responses like "I'm not in a logical area of high danger"
@ubiquitousnewt@Juha_the_Great Same studies also showed strong influence of non shared environmental factors but limited influence of shared environmental experiences. So I would love to see the twin studies you have read and the impact of regulation trait expression.
@ubiquitousnewt@Juha_the_Great What? The few twin studies I know of only show around a %50 contribution to emotional regulation differences by genetic factors. And even those as I said are more tied to intensity of emotional experiences.
@ubiquitousnewt@Juha_the_Great By learning especially in the early development stages of childhood when the brain has the most neuroplasticity can and does dramatically alter the expression of behavioral genetics. I am not a nature vs nurture believer I believe in gene-enviroment correlation
@ubiquitousnewt@Juha_the_Great Your point about gene heritability does not change what I said before. Perinatal factors do still have the strongest associations predictive of infant behavioral regulation. Genetics give you a predisposition to certain traits that does not mean they can't be overruled