Faizaan Gagan

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[Faizaan Gagan @FznSG]

@Nazaratives Firstly, you’ll need to show from where you got the idea of kalaam nafsi contradicting ilm to be the “real issue” due to which, it’s kidhb is impossible. Otherwise, you’re the idiot wasting mine and your followers time!!

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@Nazaratives -- that kalam nafsi is necessarily truthful.

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@Nazaratives You're severely deficient in understanding the Ashari arguments. They argued for kalam nafsi being true using the imperfection argument since they don't have the hikmah concept. So if you take away the aqli imperfection of lying, then Asharis have no good reason to believe --

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@Nazaratives And your quote of Samarqandi is a deception. Look at which question he's answering!! It's about "Khalq al qabaih" refuting mu'tazilah. No one is disputing this. You claim that Allah "can" create a lie that's attributed to himself. It's definitely naqs.

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@Nazaratives And if we assume imkan e kidhb for argument's sake, then for how will an Ashari know that the Quran is true?

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@Nazaratives Qubh in the sense of naqs aqli is not mukhtalaf fih between Asharis and Maturidis.

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@Nazaratives The Ashaira clearly say that kidhb is an imperfection, and hence it's impossible for Allah. Check Sh Mawaqif v8, pg 114. Now how does this imperfection become ok to occur as an action which is associated with Allah.

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@Nazaratives there’s no qudrah*

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@Nazaratives You saying, “it’s not kalam lafdhi in reality” means you’re affirming that it’s NOT kalam e lafdhi so there’s qudrah over sudoor al qabeeh to you as well which you were affirming initially.

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@Nazaratives You’re twisting things very badly to make “imkan e kidhb” work, but with no avail. If we suppose a falsehood to be created by Allah which is attributed to himself, then it’s sudoor al qabeeh which runs into the same issue which kalam e nafsi runs into i.e. it��s an imperfection.

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@Nazaratives There’s no dalalah to the nafsi if it’s a lie.

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@umer1asif 😂

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@Armour_02 I’d say Al Sayyid Al Sanad Al Jurjani Rahimahullah.

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@safwanSpiker7 @_shershahhkhan_ The funny thing is, when it comes to Ibn Arabi and the kalaam traditions, they claim linear influence and when someone calls them mu’tazili or literalist etc. they claim that their thought is commensurate to those earlier groups. It seems that the opposite is actually true.

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@MuslimPhil @KamalGasimov https://t.co/rLiKrwlgVk

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@DrShoaibAM Not to mention, the commentary of Abdul Haqq Khairabadi on HH.

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@DrShoaibAM Sidi, you should get the one with commentary of Allamah Ubaidullah Qandhari Rahimahullah as well. All all the hawashi on Mulla Sadra’s commentary on HH. Also hashiya of Ain Al Quddat on Maybudi.

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@punishedelias1 @MuslimPhil As the Shaikh Rahimahullah says: Being knowledgeable about something is superior to not being knowledgeable about it.

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@punishedelias1 @MuslimPhil Very superficially: being mindful of various levels of manifestations is far superior than not being mindful of them. And can lead to kufr/shirk in the Divine Law.