@Miguel_Thorpe@dragodimitrov They don't.
And Jesus literally was debating this: debating the distinctions between legitimate religious authority & fallacious authority: between the production of the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth & the mere performance of Godliness for rent
That was & remains the biggest fish
@TD_Barrett@John_Wells_1 Religious coercion is what disenfranchised the most faithful Christians persecuted by Rome—the Donatists—& what installed the treacherous Traditores in positions of power.
It's these Traditores that would go on to hold the council of Nicaea!
@FactsMatterPpl@vinedodeltexto What do you mean? Faithfulness means loyalty. You can and should be loyal because of confirmable evidence.
We as Christians are specifically instructed to put our faith in teachings that bear fruit: in teachings that have produced evidence of their usefulness.
@kabi__kabii The contradiction emerges when ungodly states, struggling to fight Christianity overtly, promote a corruption of it.
A material Kingdom of Heaven you will not see in your lifetime becomes an immaterial Kingdom of Heaven you will see in a quasi-pagan afterlife.
@kabi__kabii Christianity teaches us to concern ourselves with the Earthly desires of all mankind: to judge who is right by who produces & distributes material fruit: to establish a Godly state—the Kingdom of Heaven—on Earth.
There's no contradiction.
@BoiaMattaajh@Logo_Daedalus That's like asking "Why would you make a distinction between model A and model B unless you thought both models are accurate?"
You make the distinction to discuss people who believe in the accurate model, the real God, and people who believe in the false model, the false God
@lesliedouglasx@Gundamritter They spread across the Empire and beyond because their Kingdom was better than Caesar's client kingdoms. They didn't chase an eye for an eye & escalate violence or debt. They carried the pack further. They observed & acted on the truth. They chased parasites out of commons.
@bronze_chungus Hosea 1:2
"& the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the Lord."
Marrying a repentant whore is explicitly compared to Gods covenant with a repentant people.
@Mhmd_AlAs@denimneverdies Jesus says very often that our redemption hinges on our ability to hear and follow Him. Too many times to quote.
But a great & concise precedent outside of the Gospels lies in Isaiah 1:11-18
@Mhmd_AlAs@denimneverdies Redemption is through Jesus. Not because His death paid for our errors vicariously, but because His message & example have taught us how to repent of our errors.
@JohnsonMontgom7@denimneverdies@ReticentRuminnt "What's stupid about Christianity is when it recognizes that you can change your ways after rejecting an individual, yet you cannot change your ways after you reject the prospect of ever being corrected"
Huh