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@HJoyceGender I felt the pair came across as focused on women, while acknowledging a desire for inclusive language, which in fairness to them, is hardly unique to their organisation. However, the presenter Emma seemed desperate to latch onto that and wanted to paint them as centring men.
@HJoyceGender I honestly think a 'neutral' listener would come away from that interview with a better impression of the guests than the interviewer. It felt like a professional broadcaster trying to pin less experienced speakers into a corner, rather than making productive counter points.
@HJoyceGender@BBCWomansHour@PompeySteph@Emmabarnett Plenty of orgs headed by women have switched to 'inclusive' language, and in the course of the interview the guests repeatedly stressed a focus on women, but through the line of questioning the interviewer attempted to paint them as centring men. It felt like gotcha journalism.
@HJoyceGender@BBCWomansHour@PompeySteph@Emmabarnett I'm surprised, but I felt the guests equipped themselves well, and really, there was no good case to answer. While any one person may not be an appropriate CEO, I don't think being male necessarily precludes you from running a women's health org. And logically, that extends to TW
@Jebadoo2 I'm surprised to say, but I felt the guests equipped themselves quite well, and they didn't really have a case to answer. The presenter Emma seemed to want to goad them away from talking about women, but then paint them as the ones centring men. It felt like gotcha journalism.
@millihill@BBCWomansHour We can certainly make the case any one individual is not fit for a CEO role at a woman's health organisation, but I don't think a blanket decree a CEO must be female is right. That line of thinking feels like tipping into the type of identity politics best avoided.
@millihill@BBCWomansHour I really thought the interview was poor, and that too many issue are being conflated here. If there is nothing inherently wrong with a male CEO of a woman's health charity, doesn't it follow there is nothing inherently wrong with a trans woman CEO?
@helensaxby11@Emmabarnett I am so surprised by everyone's take on this. I though Emma was very poor and the guests came across far better. Emma seemed to want to paint the pair as centring men (or trans women, NB people) but I felt it was her line of questioning which dragged those responses out of them.
@millihill@Emmabarnett@BBCWomansHour I was surprised, but for the opposite reason. I felt Emma's points were weak and conduct poor. The guests CONTINUALLY said the issue vastly affects women, but Emma pounced on the slight mention of recorded cases in men, then, wrongly, tried to paint the pair as centring men.
@HJoyceGender@BBCWomansHour@PompeySteph@Emmabarnett I though Emma Barnett was poor and the guests came off much better. While you can argue any one individual might not be right for a CEO role, I don't think there is validity to the idea that a man (and therefore a trans woman) can't ever lead a charity focused on women's health.
@WingsScotland It begs the question, if it's appropriate for Humza Yousaf to say he thinks a trans women isn't actually trans, and therefore isn't actually a woman, surely it must be appropriate for others to say similar about people they judge not to be legitimately trans, and not women?
If you believe that a woman can have a penis, I'd like to know when you decided that was true and what lead you to that conclusion. I didn't see that claim advanced in earnest until 2019 on Twitter, but perhaps it has always been true for you.
@lnmackenzie1@glosswitch@Docstockk You jest, but among the most vociferous groups I do see a distain for competence & rigour. Statistical analysis is hard, so if you can't do maths but want to make claims about the nature of society it's much easier to shift to a model where anecdotes and ideologies trump data.
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@Steve__Clare@janeclarejones @jaded_shaded Yes. And when one person is marked out for harassment the rest of us can support them to fight, either financially, or with our voice or vote.