Hey. This is from my family album. In this photo my Turco-Mongol🇲🇳 dad is conceiving me with my Persian🇮🇷 mommy. Why are Persians reposting this? I knew you like to peep, but why blast it everywhere? I’ll admit some of your women were hot and our ancestors couldn’t just walk past, but damn leave my parents alone.
تو آلمان چندتا همکلاسی ترک داشتم که رسماً با افتخار برام تعریف میکردند نژادشون از جفتگیری گرگ با یک زن به وجود اومده! دستشونم این🤟🏼 میکردند، میگفتند ما گرگ هستیم و میخندیدند.
همونجا فهمیدم سطح شعورشون در چه حدّه و تصمیم گرفتم دیگه با ترکها معاشرت نداشته باشم.
Regarding mtDNA, everything is very complicated. I haven’t found any really large databases that would allow me to say something specific. From mountainous regions we have almost no samples at all, and compiling any kind of mtDNA map is also very difficult. People mainly focus on Y-haplogroups. mtDNA is poorly studied even in countries with wide access to DNA testing, and more remote countries receive even less attention.
I don’t know much about African haplogroups and mtDNA. It’s hard for me to say anything definite.
Apparently, during the period of slavery they received Y-DNA from the slave owners. Those ~10% of mtDNA will need to be checked more carefully to determine exactly what lineages they are ,only then will it be possible to say which women they mixed with.
Regarding the Kyrgyz:
Their Western Eurasian mtDNA mostly belongs to haplogroup H. It comes from sedentary agricultural women.
Steppe mtDNA from Scythian women belongs to U.
If we’re talking about Andronovo women, they carried U4 and U2, which are concentrated in the Western Eurasian mtDNA of Kazakhs. The Kyrgyz have almost none of these lineages. The small percentage of U that they do have is U5, which is older and is more likely a remnant from very ancient populations.
In essence:
After the Asian expansion, the early Turks and later the Mongols took over the Andronovo women and assimilated them. Some men probably remained in the mountains, where a founder effect occurred among the Kyrgyz. They descend from an R1a-Z93 man and women with D4 mtDNA. Later, during raids, they took sedentary Iranian women (probably from the Zagros or BMAC region) who carried H mtDNA.
They are something like North Korea in Central Asia and are quite few in number. Their country is semi-closed and lives off oil. It’s hard to get in and hard to leave; there are no tourists, and I’ve never met any of them in my life. They must have a relatively calm life, though not a rich one.
As for their origin, they are Oghuz Turks mixed with Iranians, but the Iranian component is mostly on the female side. Regarding the tribes, they are said to come from the 24 birds of Oghuz Khan’s grandson, each bird representing a separate tribe. “Turkmen” itself is an ethnic name, not an artificial one like “Uzbek.”
“Uzbek” is simply the name of Uzbek Khan, who has nothing to do with the Uzbeks as a people. And “Tajik” means “Muslim Persian,” that was the name given to Persians who accepted Islam.
Theoretically, Turkmens should be quite tribal; in practice I haven’t seen them, so I can’t say what they’re actually like.
The problem with Uzbeks is that they are an artificial nation ,not an ethnic group. The same applies to Tajiks, though to a slightly lesser degree. Both of these nations lack roots. Instead of tribes, clans, and their own traditional religions, they try to turn to Islam. As a result, their populations feel no real solidarity or sense of commonality with each other. They LARP as people stronger than themselves ,for example, as Caucasians from Dagestan ,while those who look more Asian LARP as various indigenous peoples. And all of them together try to use Islam as a way to escape discrimination.
This Wasian in the thread is behaving in the same way. He wouldn’t care about the Chinese at all if his white father had accepted him. A man is defined by his father, a woman by her mother. There’s nothing that can be done about this ,you can only accept it. Resisting it only makes you look pathetic
I heard they carried out some completely insane policies regarding agriculture and food. Maybe it’s just an inherent trait of communists in general ,to cause famines out of nowhere. But in China specifically, we’re talking about tens of millions of victims. The sparrow-killing campaign and the subsequent crop failure that killed 40 million people. It’s hard to believe that the farmers of the Yellow River, with 5,000 years of civilization and a tradition of recording everything, somehow made those decisions themselves.
@realillyrian668 I'm C-M217 and my bro E-V13 @Steppeman1465 mogged all of them and cucked your women so hard that we turned white and you turned black😂
BMC 💪and BBC💪🏿
@Steppeman1465 It’s all good, bro. This is just Mediterranean rage bait. You’re blond, so even if you came from Africa, your fathers were real tribal bull BBC inseminators for many generations until they dissolved into a harem with Aryan goddesses.💪
@maplejonesbaba Persians/Iranians. Whatever ,they’re all just different labels for low-testosterone, short j22t LARPers of the northeastern Iranians, including 2/3 of the Azerbaijani LARPers of the Turkic Oghuz
These Poorsian piled on me trying to mock my genealogy.
@shiningsavaran@Khosrow601
I’ll stay physically loyal to my direct Y-line C-F3830 no matter how little Mongolian autosomal DNA is left in me. My ancestors did it, my grandkids and their descendants will do it wherever we end up. All the mixing happened through trophy women.
These Zagros types seriously brag about 4,000 years of history and civilization, while their Kryptonite is any guy even slightly less brown than them and with colored eyes. Just picture getting cucked without a fight, right in front of your eyes, your own goddess that you ran to defend
They keep LARP as Eastern Iranian Sogdian peoples and Zoroastrianism without getting that the whole idea is to stay noble while you’re alive and die without staining your honor.
Zagrosians, you can relax. You’ll never carry any nobility, even if you slide your sisters under some “Aryan” bull. It’ll mostly be a loss for him, because now his kids are half j22t
These Poorsian piled on me trying to mock my genealogy.
@shiningsavaran@Khosrow601
I’ll stay physically loyal to my direct Y-line C-F3830 no matter how little Mongolian autosomal DNA is left in me. My ancestors did it, my grandkids and their descendants will do it wherever we end up. All the mixing happened through trophy women.
These Zagros types seriously brag about 4,000 years of history and civilization, while their Kryptonite is any guy even slightly less brown than them and with colored eyes. Just picture getting cucked without a fight, right in front of your eyes, your own goddess that you ran to defend
They keep LARP as Eastern Iranian Sogdian peoples and Zoroastrianism without getting that the whole idea is to stay noble while you’re alive and die without staining your honor.
Zagrosians, you can relax. You’ll never carry any nobility, even if you slide your sisters under some “Aryan” bull. It’ll mostly be a loss for him, because now his kids are half j22t
It’s very weird to hold dead people over iranian diaspora’s heads.
Most Iranian diaspora marry outside their race, men and women alike but for some reason only iranian women get hate for it?
Why does it matter? At the end of the day 99 percent of people in iran marry other iranians. You can’t expect diaspora to find another iranian bc we are quite literally minorities and assimilation is easier and ultimately better for us.
And even if that wasn’t the case can people just date who they like?? It’s their personal life and you can’t force people to be attracted to a certain ethnicity.
This is bordering on incel behavior like we have more important things to worry about.
Average Hazara is 57-58% to 61% Mongolian, uniformly patrilineally y-dna derived from C (associated with Mongolians directly) while this cringelord is less than 21% Mongolian autosomonally and is calling them mixed
Unironically pic related