Jrue Hollandaise

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Well even if I became a GM of a team tmr I would have 15 guys on my roster.

If there was a redraft of the entire league I’d assume brown would be picked higher then I’d want him and white would be picked lower

So I’d probably pass on brown and take white later

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Entirely depends on the context of my roster.

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave All of these things I already knew sorry I didn’t respond fast enough to your liking

Great counterpoint tho ignoring all other areas of offense outside of scoring is definitely great for JBs case

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Well no because Devin Booker more positively impacts the team turnover margin then Collin Gillespie

Collin Gillespie also isn’t an all defense level defender

And to be fair Devin Booker is making 70 mil to Gillespies 12 lmao

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Lu Dort shot 34% on 5 3s a game last year man

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave In comparison to Lu Dort white had a more difficult/creation heavy shot diet an area where Lu Dort at -25% on creation playtypes was one of the worst in the sport

This is on top of Lu being a non-playmaker non-ball handler and bad spacer.

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Celtics offense last season posted the lowest TO% in the league despite their #1 shot taker negatively impacting the TO battle

Derrick White and PP had down efficiency seasons while still being great offensive players by limiting TOs at 30%+ on-ball%

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave Same offensive rating with and without brown.

White is not an elite level ball stopper and struggles 1 on 1 with big wings in the postseason but elite secondary rim protection and nail help is valuable

White is 10x the passer/ball handler/scorer of Dort

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@TiredBlackManVI @vevosuave Doesn’t fit the narrative sorry

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@bajab4 @vevosuave Derrick white who’s never gotten any awards outside of all defense is overrated ok

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@vevosuave @SpecialPuppy1 If ur massively moving your player rankings after every 6 game playoff sample I don’t trust your evaluation

Real eval is Dyson Daniels has the best defensive hands in basketball is a top 10 defensive player 2 years in a row

Elite half court passer, short roller and OREBer

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@TBowens31 @vevosuave Well if players are injured in the playoffs we’re not gonna go far regardless of how white plays so the point rlly doesn’t matter

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@vevosuave @SpecialPuppy1 Top 40 or so don’t have a list

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@TBowens31 @vevosuave Not gonna assume injuries

Regardless Celtics system and identity consistently can churn out regular season wins with underwhelming talent 9-2 last year without brown

I’m not particularly worried

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@TBowens31 @vevosuave Offensive rebounds quite literally make the biggest weakness of Whites offensive game 3pt% (which could also very easily trend up) less destructive

Paul George games played last season also has much more to do with suspension then injury and I’m not going to assume injury

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@TBowens31 @vevosuave How will his role be bigger now when compared to last year the team has essentially swapped JB for Tatum PG and Robinson?

Both PG and Tatum can function as passers and offensive organizers in a way Brown can’t and can relieve Whites defensive duties

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@vevosuave If the conversation is moving to the trade then yeah the contract has to matter.

Id argue high usage on ball scoring with little value elsewhere is also a “role”

Why is JBs shot eating inherently more valuable than other aspects of the game if evidence may say otherwise?

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave When he was on the court team maintained its 120 (2nd in the league) offensive rating because of this.

And the defense did not “stay solid” he had one of the best rim protecting seasons ever from a modern era guard and made 1st team all defense

[Jrue Hollandaise @GoodGuyWill_]

@ecann_35 @vevosuave If you can’t see obvious offensive value idk what to tell you. Regardless of the 3pt shot falling his volume .59 3PR and spacing still adds value. He also was the best offensive organizer and passer while being the best turnover suppressor 1.7 TOs with 31% onball%