@sakayuka_chiri@Tats_Gunso You're incorrect. Laws exist because the community agrees on what is moral and correct for society. Morality informs law, not the other way around. If you cannot distinguish what is "morally right" without a law, then you have a major problem.
@HackaAji@Tats_Gunso I've unironically heard that exact argument from many Japanese multiple times. A common sentiment from the Japanese is that the law should be followed simply because its the law.
@6t9AaaDDz15395@Tats_Gunso Nothing is being taken. How is this concept so hard to understand? Software and ideas are not the same thing to physical goods.
@kazenomanimani2@fujimasgoat@Tats_Gunso It's interesting that when the concept of an immoral or nonsensible law comes up that many Japanese seem to shy away or claim its ridiculous to discuss. Do Japanese really have such trouble questioning the morality or effectiveness of their laws?
@maremermonia There being a precedent does not make it reasonable. You shouldn't have to start an entire company and crowdfund just to preserve a game that neither Square Enix or the 'pirates' want to make money from. That's ludicrous.
@miyu357501@TheMindSeer Can you explain what you mean by localization costs? You don't need to translate the game, simply putting it on steam is enough. Fans will just translate it themselves and mod it in. That's how many japanese play and understand western games on steam anyways.
@nalltama From what I've seen, it's similar to how copyright holders don't crack down on doujins in Japan. That's just where the line has been drawn for you guys. But here we're not allowed to profit from fan made works, but preserving abandoned media is more acceptable.
@nalltama You don't need to be grateful, but there's no need to get so mad about it either. Seems like it's just a cultural divide. In the West, as long as there's no loss of revenue or fans making money from the work, then copyright holders don't care. It's just been normalized.
@rakuraku373201@Xd6WGupcpUPxDbO I'm not sure how else to say it. We just don't feel guilty for pirating games not being sold to us. There's just a clear moral difference between pirating a game that is available for purchase, and a game that we can't buy. It's not an excuse, it's a moral disagreement.
@nanachan0805 Provide an actual counterargument though. If you're not selling it to me, and you're not losing any inventory on the product, then what is the actual harm being commited? The owner has lost no product or profit. It being law does not make it sensible or moral.