@ashleycomms@BillyCabby@Roxybuchanno@mrdanwalker This is how far backward we've travelled where you believe a conviction is OK because someone said it is and the evidence from one trial applies to another There's now just enough space behind you to go the one further retro step of not bothering with the farce of a trial at all.
I was discussing the Brand trial with my wife and we came to the conclusion that
you probably would have been pissed at the time but got over vaginal sex turning into surprise anal sex after 20 years and wouldn’t want either the bother of a trial or him to be sent down for 10 years…
… which then lead to the thought that prosecutors probably told victim 5 that he was guilty of many many more offences but this one was about the only one they could prove. So as to put huge pressure on her to “do her duty” and ensure justice for other women.
Which may or may not be true … but it sort of implies that victims are being managed and in a sense groomed and used by the crown prosecution service in order to obtain convictions of people they really want to get
Which in turn takes us to the intense pressure on people to confess to offences during the 2025 immigration protests including lying, refusing bail setting court dates far in the future ….
..,then to Henry Novak’s family, being lied to by family liaison officers.
The point being that the criminal justice system is hopelessly politicalised and has manipulated victims, victims families, and the accused - in order to serve careers, reputation and political objectives.
@edP6677@BurnsideWasTosh It's pants isnt it, last year couldnt get into it at all and had to ask for paper form, when I do manage to work it previously I took screen shots for my records.
Hear me out.
Put the entire net-zero agenda on hold for ten years (it isn't doing a thing to reduce emissions anyway and it is spending a fortune enriching very few).
Exploit every energy resource we own to get the country functioning.
Reassess mid 2030s.
Just common sense.
@Feeij27@Vmartine1905@AngTWC@KTHopkins Its what happened that was in dispute and choosing to believe one side or the other on the basis they said is the problem. Only two people know what was said and one of them must have lied.
@v_j_freeman You mean not as many people who support him were present at the rape as opposed to the numbers who were present who were against him. It's an opinion numbers game. Got it. Go on, put me down as a Brand defender instead of a legal system critic lile you did everyone else.
This 17-year-old boy took his own life after being falsely accused of rape.
His devastated mother then took her own life almost a year later. Now their family wants answers from the woman who made the allegation.
Jay Cheshire, 17, from Southampton, took his own life in July 2015 after being investigated by police over a rape allegation. Although the accusation was withdrawn after just two weeks, Jay struggled to cope with the investigation and the bullying that followed.
His mother, Karin Cheshire, 55, was forced to make the heartbreaking decision to switch off her son’s life support. Almost a year later, shortly after the anniversary of his death, she also took her own life after falling into a deep depression.
Men can be victims too.
Are we starting trial by media here regarding Walliams with ITV saying "our thoughts are with those who have spoken out". There is no need for the media to emote (its insincere anyway) particularly as it might plant a negative profile in minds of those that might decide any case.
@ashleycomms@BillyCabby@Roxybuchanno@mrdanwalker a) Oh its only a tiny percentage, a bit like a tiny % killed at Grenfell fire or Aberfan or of Covid or Hilsborough etc so that's OK then. b) something based on more than somebody said.
c) any part that was based on something somebody said.