sittingintheseconddeck

I like baseball, dodgers fan but usually pretty rational.
I used to shout out a random good performance every day but then I got lazy.

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We could see a new AL home run record and the first ever 50-50 season in the same year. We are living in an incredible time for baseball.

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Shohei Ohtani leads the National in OPS.
Shohei Ohtani leads the National League in ERA (minimum 60 innings).

Nobody, not even Babe Ruth, has ever led their league in both OPS and ERA.

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@ligmballz123 @ParkerA2727 @Nyanasaur Idk, ask the old heads who yell about velocity not mattering and that we need more pitchers, not theowers

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@ParkerA2727 @Nyanasaur ERA is a great representation of what happened, not what will happen. That's the point. Give an award based on ERA, but don't predict next year based on ERA

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@notgaetti How about using ERA+ for Ruth? Interesting that you used OPS+ but raw ERA. Is it possible that Ohtani has a much better ERA+?

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Consider that baseball literally changed the rules after that Gibson season because it was too unfair to hitters. Ohtani is on a literal different playing field then Gibson was that season

[Ken Cage @KenCageRepo]

The recency bias in sports is tiresome. Yes Shohei is incredibly unique. But don’t call him an all timer yet. His ERA is low, but he limits his innings which makes it easier for him. Consider Bob Gibson pitched 19 straight CGs on his way to a 1.12 ERA. Dont compare them.

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@KenCageRepo @mooro612 Guy who only pitched was really good at pitching. Guy who pitches and hits is good at pitching and hitting

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@WarriorBBall5 Please look up his stats, the least amount of innings he had above 10 was 23 in 1914, next least is 133 in 1919. If we exclude 1914, his OPS+ goes even higher to 191

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Babe Ruth OPS+ in years that he pitched at least 10 innings: 190.
Ohtani highest OPS+ in his career: 187.

I love Ohtani, but going purely on the numbers he's not up to the Babe yet. The only argument is that Babe had weaker competition.

[Not Gaetti @notgaetti]

Brother he slugged .690 lifetime

(For perspective, Albert Belle slugged .690 when he went 50/50 in a strike-shortened season)

Babe Ruth slugged .690 for 22 years

And he had a 1.159 WHIP on the mound across 1221.1 innings and was one of the greatest postseason performers ever

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@WarriorBBall5 I posted a hitting stat, if anything cutting it off at 10 innings actually makes it worse for the Babe because it eliminates a couple of his Yankee years where he other like 5 innings

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@notgaetti Let's assume that the lifestyle magically makes no difference, there's no denying that the player pool is vastly more talented now than back then.

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On the flip side, Ohtanis ERA+ for his career is 154. Ruth only passed that once (158 in 1916) and was not over 130 in any other year

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And that highest OPS+ for Ohtani was 2024, when he didn't pitch

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@stingray7751 @c50391904 @notgaetti What was the league average ERA in those years? 2.44 is excellent, but the whole league had good pitching numbers. Ohtani is better compared to the league

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@BaseUnstitched How many plate appearances? That would take a toll on a pitcher no?

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@Mets2026 @BigRichardNick1 @Gutt_Feeling @TJStats Let's go back to the 1900s when you were only allowed to win once. Babe Ruth has as many MVP awards as Ken Caminiti

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@rinickulous96 @TalkinBaseball_ @JomboyMedia @trevorplouffe Nah in the actual ep Jake guessed first, so there was a pause before Trevs guess

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@waiaor @Memo_B_Random More chance than what?

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@Memo_B_Random @waiaor We can discuss the semantics. The point is that a hitter has as much time to react to Mizs 98 mph fastball as they do to the average 101

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@Memo_B_Random @waiaor @notgaetti But they would reach the finish line faster, meaning if you were waiting at the finish line, you would have less time to react. Kind of like a hitter having less time to react to a pitch

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@FowlerBoatdoc61 @notgaetti That goes both ways