@Sorrellx11 You clearly dont understand all of the variables that went into this incident. Yes, ice can do this to the leading edge of a plane that flew through a storm at 47°C. Combines with external storm forces, updrafts, etc. Upset the windows, you fall out of the window.
“BANKING 60 DEGREES” — HOW EXTREME IS THAT?
During the Learjet 60 flight, the pilot reportedly told Miami Center: “Banking 60 degrees.”
But what does that actually mean?
Imagine leaning a motorcycle sharply into a corner. Now picture an aircraft doing the same thing in the sky.
0° bank: Wings level, straight and level flight , 1G load factor.
15–30° bank: Typical bank angles during normal jet turns.
60° bank: An extremely steep turn, producing approximately 2G in a level, coordinated turn. Everyone onboard effectively feels twice their normal weight.
Here’s the critical part: At 60° of bank, the aircraft’s stall speed increases by approximately 41% compared with wings-level flight.
A steep bank dramatically increases aerodynamic loads and reduces the margin between normal flight and a stall.
But why would the pilot have been banking at 60 degrees? And what was happening inside the cockpit at that moment?
@MickFlairDrip These were people. Flight number, tracking, tail numbers. Y'all dont understand camera and shutter speeds. The dash cam isnt some 120+fps recording device. Most are 24fps and 30fps. Which means you get major smearing or blur in between frames. This isnt a missile, it was a plane.
"Where's the debris?"
Here. Here are some of the planes debris.
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Most of it either disintegrated into small fragments or is buried deep in the soft, rain-soaked soil. But some of it was thrown out by the explosion and the impact, glanced off the asphalt where part of the jet hit the road, and landed in the mobile home park next door.
Residents there are finding pieces of the plane all over the neighborhood. In the video he's saying, in Spanish, "Look, that's a part of a plane... pieces everywhere."
Look at what he's finding: small pieces of riveted aluminum skin and structure, some still wearing the yellow-green primer used inside airframes, mixed in with sand and gravel thrown out of the crater. No wings, no tail, no big sections. Just fragments.
That's exactly what physics predicts. The jet hit at about 700 mph at a steep 68 degrees, so most of the airplane drove straight into the ground. But it was still moving sideways at roughly 260 mph when it hit, the fuel went up in a fireball, and the impact blasted soil out of the crater. All of that flings the lightest fragments outward, and thin aluminum skin carries a long way.
This is also the difference between a ground impact and a mid-air breakup or missile strike. Hit something in the air and wreckage, including big pieces like the tail and wings, rains down along a trail that can stretch for miles. Here you have a crater with small fragments sprayed around it, and a transponder that kept reporting all the way to the ground. One impact, one spot.
The plane didn't vanish. Most of it is in the ground, and the rest is in people's yards.
Yesterday showed the internet at its absolute worst. While nine families were learning their loved ones died in the West Palm Beach Learjet crash, shameless grifters were already turning the crater into a cesspool of ignorant conspiracy theories.
Millions of views on pure fiction—from Lenny Kravitz being on board to claims it wasn't even a plane. Let's go through the worst of it:
Shot down by the Mar-a-Lago air defenses? Short-range systems like the Stinger top out around 10,000 feet. Flight tracking had this jet at about 35,000 feet before the dive.
A missile, not a plane? It was Learjet 60 N722BD, Austin to North Eleuthera. The crew was on the radio with Miami Center reporting ice and turbulence, then a mayday and an overspeed at 20,000 feet per minute. See @alexboge overlay of the final crash frame
False flag? A real tail number, a real route, a real cockpit voice, real flight tracking, real video of the crash. An ADS-B reconstruction of the final 78 seconds. NTSB investigators will report later today.
No debris? A near vertical impact at that speed shatters an airframe into unrecognizable pieces. A Learjet captain told CBS12 exactly that. Photos and video of he crash site show it littered with small pieces of twisted metal.
ATC audio came out too early? LiveATC(.)net records air traffic radio publicly in near real time. Nobody released it. It was available everywhere. It did not come from a blackbox.
DEI pilot? Nothing released points to the pilot. Ice, turbulence and an overspeed are what the tapes show. We know the pilot was a woman. That's it. Some people are naming her. I prefer to wait on the official announcement.
Nine people died. The NTSB briefs today in West Palm Beach. Can we wait for the facts before we use their deaths to sell a theory?
@Tybrooks415670@Aeilens@TheWilliamWild No, 9 real people lost their lives. Registered planes. Backed by live radar route details. This was real, not a missle.
@elteslaengineer Anyway to update this video with the account of the loss of H stabilizer on the T tail? So far this is the most informative video out there on this. Great work. But I know people wont consider the damage to the plane, and will Q why they didnt roll. That would answer that Q.
The Learjet 60 that crashed in Palm Beach County today went from 35,000 ft to the ground in 76 seconds.
I rebuilt the last 3 minutes in 4D from ADS-B, ATC audio, a NEXRAD analysis and dashcam video, then ran the engineering. Here's what the data says, and what it doesn't. 🧵
@KEMOS4BE Not a conspiracy, there were a lot of factors that went into it, including incliment weather, ice, precipitation, pilots training and experience. Still lots of unknowns. But one thing is for sure, you loose that vert on the T tail (known issue), its over.
@mbtk4896@fadhel30 She's the copilot, she worked the radios while a senior pilot was at the helm. Nothing they could do considering the overwhelming (possible) ice.
@fadhel30 Most likely ice buildup from the high altitude flight, combined with the precipitation encountered while flying through a high tipped storm system.
@rowdyray33 Florida had very bad weather with tops reaching in the high 30k possible low 40k ft. Its VERY possible to get ice u0 there, considering the temperature at that altitude as well. The copilot also noted the observed ice beforehand.
CHILLING AUDIO captures FEMALE PILOT’S FINAL MOMENTS before PLANE CRASHES in FLORIDA
‘MAYDAY, MAYDAY, we’re descending 10,000 FEET PER MINUTE’
‘LOOK OUTSIDE JACK… HOLY FU*K WE’RE OUT OF TIME’ — TERRIFYING final words heard before impact