So when you don’t have any arguments since I’ve crushed every single one of them with facts and proof, you start spreading lies and calling Allah bloodsucking Baal. If I was in your place I would repent immediately from that what you have said since you will be asked about it on the day of Judgment. Your theological defense has complitely collapsed, and now you’re just venting your frustration because I used your own book to dismantle your claims. You don’t see me being offensive to you I was just stating facts. May Allah Glory be to Him guide you to find the truth and to the right path. Salamun aleykum
@iyanuDgreat@mangai_jerry@I_Am_The_ICT@grok Bro what are you even trying to say here? you don't wash your feet? Jesus literally washed his disciples' feet and told them they needed it to be clean. If you think washing is 'unnecessary,' you are disagreeing with Jesus himself in John 13
If you're a Son of God through adoption but you are not divine, you have admitted that the tittle does not equal God. You're worshipping a man who was sent by God, while I worship the One who sent him. Stop worshipping a man that had to go to the bathroom and had to eat just like you do and start worshipping the Kings of Kings, the God almighty who is no need of food or anything else. That is the true way
Again you're lying and misinterpreting your own bible, Jesus condemned not public prayer, but praying for the sake of being seen, if you think praying in public makes you a hypocrite, then why do Christians go to church? By your logic every Sunday service is an act of hypocrisy.
You try to mock us for washing before prayer? Your own bible says God commanded Moses to wash before worship. Was Moses a hypocrite for wanting to be clean before God? Do you think its okay to go to the bathroom to relief yourself and without washing to stand before God and thinking it is okay?
@iyanuDgreat@mangai_jerry@I_Am_The_ICT@grok You can't have it both ways, bro
if the title "Son of God" implies a divine nature then your bio is a claim to divinity, if your bio is just a sign of faith, then "Son of God" is a metaphor for a servant.
If you believe that being "Son of God" can be achieved through belief and adoption it literally proves that the title is about status and relationship not divine nature.
Your bio says you are 'Yahweh's Son.' If that title means 'God,' then you are claiming to be God. If you say no I'm just a believer then you have just proven the Islamic point: Jesus was a believer and a Prophet who was honored with that title.
@iyanuDgreat@mangai_jerry@I_Am_The_ICT@grok Jesus fell on his face to pray? How many times do you do that every day as well? We muslims do that 5 times a day at least, hm seems like we're following what Jesus did more than you did
Or should we mention how Jesus prayed?
Matthew 26:39: "And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed..."
So he fell into prostration, to whom? to himself? or to One God who created him.
Your bible says Jesus cried and wept to the One who could save him. If he is the 'Only Potentate' and 'King of Kings' you mentioned earlier, why is he crying for help? A King doesn't beg for his life; a Messenger relies on his Creator. This verse says he was 'heard because he feared God. God does not fear Himself
Aha so some parts of your Bible are literal and some are "proverbs" okay.
You say a Prophet can't give keys to heaven, but in your own Bible, God gave Moses the authority to split the sea and Elijah the authority to stop the rain and raise the dead. If God can give a Prophet power over life, death, and nature, why is it hard for you to believe God gave His Messiah the authority to establish a path to Heaven?
Matthew 28:18 literally says Jesus was "given" all authority. If he was God he wouldn't need to be given anything? You're contradicting yourself again.
You think luke 24:19 is crushing islam but it literally is the strongest verse for islam. what does it say in the verse?
He was a mighty prophet of God who performed miracles and wonders.
What dinivity? If being a "Son of God" means that someone is God , than Adam is God in your view where it says in Luke 3:38 that Adam is Son of God. Jesus said all peacemakers are "Sons of God"
IF being Son of God makes you divine do you worship Adam and every peacemaker in the world? In your bio you claim you are Yahwehs son? if that title makes Jesus God, then by your own logic you're claiming you're God as well, do you worship yourself as God?
@iyanuDgreat@mangai_jerry@I_Am_The_ICT The simple english in your bible literally refers the "He" to God and not to Jesus, why are you not showing the verse 16 which literally says dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see... Does that sound like Jesus?
Matthew 13:57: After being rejected in his hometown, Jesus says, "A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house."
Luke 13:33: "Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem."
Luke 24:19: After the crucifixion, his disciples described him as: "...Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people."
Matthew 21:11: When he entered Jerusalem, the crowds said: "This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee."
he people who walked with him, ate with him, and saw his miracles didn't call him 'God' or 'King of Kings'; they called him a Prophet. Why do you think you know more about Jesus than the people who actually saw him?
John 14:28: "My Father is greater than I."
John 5:30: "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
In islam Jesus (Isa) is called Kalimatullah which means word of Allah. Which means he is a miracle created directly by God's command.
I am again reminding you of 1 Timothy 6:15-16
which says of God (the Father): "who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see..."
You quote your revelation but you ignore 1 Timothy, where your own bible says the only king of kings is the one who is immortal and whom no man has even seen. So that cannot be Jesus.
@iyanuDgreat@mangai_jerry@I_Am_The_ICT So I see you're now a hadith expert mashallah
This hadith is about human arrogance, its a warning to tyrants who think they are God and it has nothing to do with Jesus. On the day of Judgmenet Allah will say " I am the King! Where are the kings of the earth?"
You claim a Prophet can't be affected by worldly harm, yet you believe your God was stripped and nailed to a cross. If physical suffering proves a Prophet is fake, you just disqualified Jesus.
Matthew 21:11 the people said, 'This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth.' Read Luke 24:19 Jesus asked, “What things?” “The things about Jesus, the man from Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a mighty prophet of God who performed miracles and wonders. His words were powerful and he had great favor with God and the people.
I believe Abraham has built the Ka'bah because Allah has said so in the Qur'an. In your own bible it says Abraham was built altars everywhere he went. Abraham is explicitly mentioned in the Qur'an "Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists."
And it didn't take 600 years to correct anything. Islam is the original message of all prophets from Adam to Jesus. That God is one, while your "truth" is a collection of 4th century Roman creeds that Jesus himself never preached that contradicts the Bible verses you've been failing to quote correctly all day.
Psalm 84:4-7
Blessed are they that dwell in thy house: They will be still praising thee. Selah. Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; In whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; The rain also filleth the pools.
Baca is mentioned in the Qur'an as well and it another name for Makkah. Bakkah also means crowding and to break which is something that corresponds to a place of pilgrimage where people crowd and it breaks their ego as everyone is equal there before God no matter if he is a king or a beggar. And we don't worship men, we worship the God who humbles all in that valley.