@fivefinelegs Holy shit, are you so into your own image of yourself that you're actually going to take this fake, drive-by-liberalism ass soapbox because it suits you? You're a mouthpiece for nazis, and you're complicit. Congrats on being as bad as the thing you're pretending to care about.
@fivefinelegs Being right is important to you. The rise of fascism is a little more important THAN you. Find the source of the resurfacing of decade old tweets. His name is Michael Cernovich. I know you aren't the enemy, but if you could stop signal boosting them, that'd be killer.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby NOOO. That mentality is how you get Adam Sandler to make over 50 awful movies. Can you sit through a Sandler flick? The free market is a bullshit system for judging art.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby There IS a way to make jokes that are funny and don't punch down. And you're seeing what I'm seeing, Comedians scrambling for nuance as the alt right digs into their past. I guess my critique is most in line with Todd Glass' last special. He has a bit about this that's wonderful.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby I'm absolutely a fan of Community but I'm also a fan of Harmontown and I know how hard Dan has worked to be an ally of intersectionality. There are several off-color jokes in community, but Harmon took accountability for those jokes and changed.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby It is historically the job of the comic or jester to critique those in power. Those in power are affecting the world around them negatively often, so it is okay to jab at them because of their abuse of power. It isn't your job to protect those who can protect themselves.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby That isn't true though, there are agreed upon folkways of human society. If you said the N word, you are objectively wrong. If I made heroine addicts the butt of my joke, that's punching DOWN on addicts when I could be punching UP on big pharma and be making similar jokes.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby Not if you consider WHOM the joke is at the expense of. It is okay for example to attack those in authority because swinging up is never going to be in poor taste. But if you tell an assault joke, 25% of the room will statistically have gone through that experience.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby Comedy is not beyond examination and that needs to be the heart of this comedic nuance we need to find. It's your responsibility to examine what you put on a stage, whether it gets a laugh or not. Because if you can't stand behind the content, you have no business joking about it
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby And it's really great that you're successful, but I'm a young comic and my sentiments are being echoed throughout the newest generation of comedians. The business is in clear need of nuance and that's what I'm trying to bring up.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby I'm not asking my sensibilities be catered to, I'm saying that there are things we agree upon not doing on stage. They're directly related to the cultural context of the world. We don't say the N word, we don't make holocaust jokes, art should be informed by the world around us.
@Cernovich you're a nazi challenging comedians to a semantics war? You just asked the school bully for a Hawaiian Punch. My man, you are taking the words play dangerously to new heights and we WILL hurt your feelings. Because we're mean, and fascist incel are low-hanging douche
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby If you aren't willing to concede that jokes should be thought about critically in the same way as any art form, then we have a fundamental disagreement about comedy and I'm sorry that you don't respect it as an art form.
@FiveInThePink@dunwaIl@esmesheIby That's a ridiculous binary! There are things that aren't okay to make fun of. Don't make fun of Asian accents if you aren't from that culture. Really simple one. That doesn't mean comedy is dead, it mean think about your bits and don't make victims of assault the butt of a joke.
@fivefinelegs The video is absolutely not something I support, but Harmon has gone on record taking accountability for his past awful jokes and demonstrated his willingness to look inward. He's fighting the white male narrative, having just escaped it.
@fivefinelegs I'm not going for personal attacks here, you're trying to do the right thing, I think we're on the same side, but please look into Cernovich and 4chan's list of hits. Harmon, Noah, Gunn, this is a coordinated attack. You don't have to believe me but please don't believe the nazis