@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq The very rationality you're using to deny God transcends matter. Logic isn't physical, you can't weigh it -- yet you trust it absolutely. You already believe in the non-physical. I invite you to read the Quran.
@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq Your statement is an admission of limitation, not a proof that nothing else exists. A finite mind confined to physical perception is exactly what you'd expect to be unable to detect God - that's not evidence He doesn't exist, that's evidence you're using the wrong instrument.
@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq A metal detector that never finds wood isn't evidence that wood doesn't exist. Your method of detection determines what you can detect. Using physical observation to conclude only physical things exist isn't a proof, it's a built-in blind spot.
@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq You say divine inspiration is impossible because nonphysical things cannot cause physical effects.
But I'm curious: what is your justification for that principle itself?
Because science observes regularities within nature, it doesn't directly prove that only nature exists.
@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq Let me ask you another one. If a religious text appeared today with an unknown author but claimed divine inspiration, what standard would you use to accept or reject it-and is that same standard applied to Hebrews?
@JoelKatz@MasterMaliq If we don't know with confidence who wrote Hebrews, how do we verify the chain between God → messenger → text? What objective method tells us this book belongs in scripture?
@JoelKatz@filip36319058@osgamer74 That's fair criticism. Scientific miracle arguments alone aren't enough because interpretation can be debated. But the bigger question is:, if science became the standard for understanding the universe, why should that automatically imply no creator?
@JoelKatz@filip36319058@osgamer74 You care about evidence and rational thinking. Islam actually encourages questioning, observation, and reasoning. So instead of starting with blind belief, let's examine the evidence.
"And We are expanding it." (Quran 51:47)
Modern cosmology says the universe expands.
@axelobergrupen@I8731730332406@MasterMaliq Lmao Christians do fear death lmao.. y'all have some of the weakest faith next to any pagan worshipers. It's all talk and no actions.
@_Maverick143_ 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 just like Paul was getting fucked??? You little faggot cross lickers always making gay assumptions, you probably want to get a Thorn in your ass too faggot lmao.
@GodLogic_GL Fun fact your a lair lmao. The prayer starts when he says Allah Akbar, from there he can join them anytime he wants. Never yelled at the guy he just waved and told him to watch out because it's recording. You're a lair and you will take many ppl to hell because they are blinded.
@Dev_Bethel@Thatnsukkaboy_ Uncertainty about Hebrews doesn’t prove the canon’s innocence.....it proves its dependence....A canon that must be discerned, debated, and finalized by later authorities is, by definition, historically contingent whether texts were written early or chosen later. You tried buddy.
@Dev_Bethel@Thatnsukkaboy_ Whether a text is written later or chosen later, the issue is the same:
Who chose it, by what authority, using what criteria, and why should that choice be binding?
The New Testament canon:
Was not chosen by Jesus
Was not chosen by the apostles
Was not chosen in the 1st century.
@Thatnsukkaboy_ Based on disputed authorship
With books rejected, debated, and lost If “historical contingency” invalidates authority:
You lose Luke
You lose Acts
You lose Hebrews
You lose the canon itself.. nigga thinks he smart.
@Thatnsukkaboy_ “historically contingent” accusation backfires badly LMAOOO...But this standard destroys christianity first! Because, the new testament canon is later chosen by councils.
@la_baballe@Ihunanya_chi Paul's authority rests on a vision only he experienced, narrated by a later author who never met Jesus. Muslims reject it for the same reason Jews did in the 1st century: revelation needs witnesses, not autobiography by proxy.