@jackgalt55@From_1776@mtaibbi I make my living in a metal shop getting my hands dirty every day.
Maybe instead of making stupid pointless yachts, workers could be building public works that benefit everyone (i.e. infrastructure) instead of building and maintaining luxury items for the very wealthy?
@lospilares11@mtaibbi I spent 10 hours today working in a metal shop. I make my living getting my hands dirty every day. Yet I still have the capacity to form an actual argument, unlike you.
@WoodCarpenter80@mtaibbi The Jim Crow south basically proves their arguments were incorrect. Otherwise "free" markets were still able to discriminate based on race until the big, bad federal government - not markets - had to make them stop and extend economic and civil rights to African Americans.
I guess if you donโt have interest or belief in civil liberties generally, then the free market can exist independently of freedom of religion. If you care what people like Jefferson and Madison believed, then youโd know they not only saw economic independence as necessary to preserve other freedoms, but saw all of the freedoms as existing in interdependent fashion, making it necessary to constantly protect all of them. Thatโs why the U.S. government is designed primarily to protect rights. That includes property as well as beliefs - they didnโt really distinguish between the two. Madison even said a person had โpropertyโ in โhis religious opinions.โ
@mtaibbi My last section is written poorly: what I argued is that giving large, private corporations a bunch of money, a large chunk of which goes to CEOs, is obviously less effencient and more expensive than the government just running the industry itself.
@mtaibbi You still havent defined what "economic liberty" even means.
"Jefferson and madison said it" isnt an argument.
You didnt deal with my point that the government giving money to for profit corporations is less efficient and more expensive than giving a large chunk of it to CEOs
@bwolman@mtaibbi His refusal to define "economic liberty" gives the game away. He just thinks rich people like him shouldn't have to answer to anybody for anything, ever.
@DanMcCo97168070@mtaibbi I used it a single time for emphasis? Why are you harping on this?
Answer: because you can't form an actual argument against anything I said.
@mtaibbi Yeah Matt, it makes much more sense to have the government hand out contracts that have to be inflated by billions of dollars so CEOs can buy yachts.