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I just wanna rock... at an angle

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@KingCondor69 @wrong83503 0% chance u were invited why lie lol

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Ok man I give up, you’re right I’m wrong. Have a nice day

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo If it takes you 300 hours of ranging to get all of the items from every raid and boss encounter in the entire game, you’ve lost the 60 hours at a 20% dps drop (the drop is closer to 25-30% I’m skewing the number to benefit you)

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Forgot the offhand my bad. Make it 25% once you waste tens of hours compared to bowfa getting the best offhand in the game

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Using a ZCB everywhere you would normally use a bowfa will absolutely lose you way more than that amount of hours. At bandos, even with crystal btw, ZCB is >30% dps loss over bowfa. Apply a similar number everywhere you’d use ranged besides Nex.

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Ok so now you are changing your strategy to what, using an ACB everywhere in the game you’d normally use a bowfa? Cool just add up all the hours you’re gonna lose from the dps drop at every boss/raid

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Why are you talking about just an ACB? You said your path would involve using that ACB to go get a ZCB and all the other Nex drops… so add that 30hrs to the Nex grind hours.

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Like I said, sure you can do it that way. Its way less efficient than grinding a bowfa. And a noob who does this will step into their first ToA and get outperformed by all their teammates with bowfa/crystal tridents/zhastas they got during the hours they saved over ur dumbass way

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo The upgrade from rcb/dhide to crystal/bowfa is much more impactful than getting a ZCB/vambs/torva from Nex, especially with oathplate now. I posted the AI screenshot because you are exhausting to interact with. I am glad the Kree thing gave you something meaningless to latch onto

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Does it not register with you that you can go dry in other places besides cg? “You might go dry here so go somewhere else” makes no sense. Go off the average amount of time the item takes to obtain and hope you go under rate. Applies everywhere. Easy thing to understand.

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo “Just use a warped scepter, zombie axe, and rcb for everything until you get a shadow, scythe, and tbow. Everything in between loses its value after that anyways.” Do you think this is a good argument at its core?

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo I’m sure you are mechanically good at the game. I wouldn’t make an iron if I was you, you don’t seem to understand the concept of gear progression and you’re incapable of changing your mindset when you are clearly wrong. I think you would get very frustrated and confused

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo I don’t think the average player is stupid, maybe uninformed. It is a good thing they have the wiki and other players to lay out the best path for them based on millions of hours of combined experience. I do think that you are considerably dumber than the average player though.

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@1davidj @PhosaniNex @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Nah bro didn’t u hear him it’s simple don’t worry about stuff like “numbers” and “thinking”. The real stupid way to play the game is the way 99% of the player base has agreed makes the most sense for years

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Ok man I understand your points and think that they are stupid and come from a place of either stubbornness or willful ignorance. Done w the argument u can keep it going w AI if u want I got it started for u. Play the game how you like and enjoy ❤️

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo But you are presenting this as ZCB being the alternative to a bowfa. By your logic, you need absolutely nothing to do cg but you need a rcb for Nex so if you commit to grinding out full crystal and bowfa, why waste time getting the rcb.

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Ok yeah lemme grind out a ZCB at Nex quick so that my Nex kills are faster

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Once again your argument was that cg is a “noob trap”, and your alternative is for an inexperienced player with early game gear to just lock into raids/gwd without the best weapon available to them for those encounters. Only argument that makes any sense is Eye of Ayak imo

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo Yep you 100% can do that if you want to spend more time on average farming a upgrade for a crossbow that you already had to grind out prior to Nex, that has much less utility in the mid game (where people get bowfas) than a bowfa

[jeff @JeffMcFlow]

@PhosaniNex @1davidj @Cheng4113 @BrungusTwo The rate for a bowfa is 1/400 from cg. You can go dry in all the other places you mentioned as well (which are all much faster with a bowfa by the way). My impression of you is that you are really bad at critical thinking