an artist knows their own work best. can’t argue with that. but I have to tell you…
this album right here is criminally underrated, CLEARLY.
“Piece Of Mind” “Hazeus View” “Like Me” “Belly Of The Beast” “Christ Conscious” “On & On” “Black Beetles” 🔥
from the first to the last song, in fact. top tier lyricism & production. this album for me isn’t just music it’s a state of mind bro it’s that good. this man was in a different dimension. in an alternate universe this is low key “2000” lol.
let’s stay focused on the sentiment of lyrical rap as a subgenre and friendly sparring. It’s the most scarcity mindset lane of rap. There’s a lot of brand protection going on which is understandable lol.
If my example was bad, cool I won’t die on that hill. I’m not here to single anyone out. I hate for it to come off that way. But the sentiment as a whole about niggas being afraid to feature other top emcees on their own records remains at the very least, speculative.
@gothamhiphop That’s fair bro. There’s more examples I could use but they already saying I’m hating and clout chasing so I’m gon digress. I could be wrong about the example I used I’m open to that, but my sentiment is the focus here.
My sentiment is this type of thing happens all the time. This is just a recent example that I think is clear. Btw the topic was about sparring in hip hop re: the Hov interview.
This is not just about J Cole this is about lyrical rap as a subgenre period. My sentiment is that there’s a scarcity mindset in the subgenre and usually the top guys don’t invite other hungry spitters onto their own tracks. Let me give Cole his flowers real quick just to be clear because i loved the album and Ive always loved him as an emcee (and person). But I stand on what I’m saying. The evidence is there. There’s a difference between doing features for niggas and featuring niggas on your own work. And for the record, if niggas wholeheartedly thought JID didn’t fit on TFO, that’s your opinion. But he’s also not featured on any other j Cole album.
Didn’t J Cole just say “if hip hop was dead JID would be platinum?” (On a throwaway mixtape btw) But then not feature him at all on the mixtape or the album when either or would’ve made sense.
All I’m saying is notice the trend in this specific sub genre.
- sincerely a lover of the art form of lyrical rap.
WOW: Joey Bada$$ implies that he thinks JID wasn’t on ��The Fall-Off’ bc Cole didn’t want to get bodied on his own record 👀
“Truth is dudes don’t be wanting to collab out of fear of getting bodied on they own record…This is exactly why you didn’t see JID on ‘The Fall-Off’…I loved the album but let’s be fr.”
I wanted JID on the album too but damn I wasn’t expecting this sentiment from Joey
I have a real love for the game man. I’ve been a real player in the sport for a while everything I’ve ever said I’ve stood on and I could back up all my talk. I got genuine love for niggas, there’s a million other examples I could use to back up what I’m saying but that was most recent. I keep seeing yall say I’m hating on Cole and that really grinds my gears lol. Literally love everybody on that side, Dreamville is family. I’ve even expressed this sentiment to JID directly. You know why? Because I can do that.
It’s funny when people say I’m clout chasing or attention seeking when I’m generally just speaking my mind. Only reason yall heard from me today is because that Hov interview. Peace tho!
You must’ve not read the first tweet go read again. When was JID ever featured on a Cole album? There’s a different light you get from a nigga featuring you on HIs song than from a nigga being a feature on your song.
Cole literally said “if hip hop wasn’t dead JID would be platinum”. Then why not let bro eat at the main table with you?
One thing about JID he gon do what he do regardless, and thats why he was Grammy nominated. But you gotta feel me on that. JID for sure benefits from being featured on Cole’s “last album”. He doesn’t lose anything but he does gain.
Think about it, if somebody at the “top” gave somebody coming up an opportunity to come after them on a record , you know what would happen?! LOL NIIGGAS IS EATING THEY FOOD! OFF TOP. RENT IS DUE, BILLS PAID EXPEDITIOUSLY.
Public perception of who’s the best would be drastically different if this were a regular occurrence.
This is exactly why you didn’t see JID on The Fall Off. He would’ve OVERSTOOD the assignment. To me personally, it made no sense he wasn’t on there but hey maybe that’s just me. 🤷🏾♂️ btw I loved the album but let’s be fr.
@LeoRivana5 Promise I’m not trynna drag bro, Cole is and forever will be goated in my book. But as a public figure he is subject to public opinion. Need yall to understand I love Cole he will tell you himself lol. And really I could be wrong and if I am I’ll accept it but I doubt it.
Again tho, I don��t say that to bash nobody just my perspective / opinion. I’m tweeting this here because I’ll say this to anybody face. Unlike a lot of you niggas, one thing I’ve never been is a hater. Really think about what I’m saying, reading is fundamental. Everything should be clear from that first tweet. If not, yall don’t know this lyrical miracle shit like I do lol