@Devsthetix not even a question you should be hitting legs 2x week especially if your training Glutes and Hamstrings correctly which is so incredibly important.
Escarra has no chance at the plate, I don’t even have words for how bad the Yankees Catchers have been this year.. No hits so far this month either… how is that even possible?
@DisrespectedThe lol this is false on every level and wrong with his timelines and his prophets… when u know scripture and actually study the word u can discern all the nonsense.. that’s why i love it
so why? that becomes the question…
I can’t sit here and honestly tell you for fact i know the exact answer to that.. But what we can do is let the text try and lay it out before us..
It’s more than a fair question to ask about the effects of this change, even if we cannot peer into the mind of the specific scribe. The original reading illuminates a profound reality about what happened at the division of the nations:
At Babel, humanity was disinherited in a sense and placed under the oversight of subordinate divine beings (the “sons of God”). These beings were meant to rule justly but, according to texts like Psalm 82 and later traditions reflected in 1 Enoch, many rebelled, accepted worship, and led the nations into idolatry and corruption. Yahweh alone took Israel as his direct inheritance and portion, setting up the long story of redemption that would eventually extend back to the nations through the Messiah and the Church.
By altering the text to “sons of Israel,” later readers lost an important key to this cosmic geography. The spiritual dimension of the nations—the “principalities and powers,” the “princes” over Persia and Greece in Daniel 10, the rulers of this present darkness in Ephesians 6—becomes harder to see. The change may have served (whether intentionally or not) to veil the true nature of the spiritual conflict and the structure of delegated authority that God established, then judged, and ultimately moves to reclaim.
One can speculate that adversarial spiritual forces—the satan/adversary or the rebellious sons of God themselves—would have every interest in obscuring this picture. Keeping God’s people from clearly seeing the allotment at Babel, the judgment of the divine council in Psalm 82, and the reclamation of the nations through the Gospel would hinder understanding of both the depth of the conflict and the breadth of God’s redemptive plan. Whether through human theological caution or broader spiritual dynamics, the effect was similar: a partial veiling of what really took place.
When i was shown the textual variant in Deuteronomy 32:8-9 it blew my mind…Now im looking at my Standard Christian Bible alongside the Greek Septuagint(earliest translation) and verse 32:8 is written completely different…
the standard christian Bible says..
““When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders of the peoples
according to the number of Children of Israel.
But the Lord’s portion was Jacob;
Israel was his allotted heritage.”……🙋♂️🙋♂️
But Isreal wasent even a nation back then yet… hmmm
Now let’s look at the Greek Septuagint…
“When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders of the peoples
according to the number of the “SONS OF GOD”
But the Lord’s portion was Jacob;
Israel was his allotted heritage.”
Kinda a big difference..
And here’s the kicker.. When they found the dead sea scrolls guess which version showed up? … “Sons of God”
so who were the Sons of God??
In the Old Testament, the phrase “sons of God” (bene elohim) consistently refers to heavenly beings who stand before God.
Examples:
📖 Job 1:6
“The sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD.”
📖 Job 2:1
“Again there was a day when the sons of God came…”
📖 Job 38:7
“When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy.”
This interpretation becomes even more fascinating when we compare it with other passages throughout Scripture.
📖 Psalm 82
“God stands in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods He holds judgment.”
Later in the same Psalm we read:
“I said, ‘You are gods,
sons of the Most High, all of you;
nevertheless, like men you shall die.’”
(Psalm 82:6-7)
Whether one interprets these beings as divine rulers, heavenly beings, or supernatural members of God’s council, the language is striking. The Psalm speaks of “sons of the Most High” who were given authority yet are judged by God for ruling unjustly. This language closely parallels the idea found in Deuteronomy 32 that the nations were allotted according to the number of the sons of God while Israel remained the Lord’s own inheritance.
The picture becomes even more compelling in Daniel.
📖 Daniel 10
An angel tells Daniel:
“The prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me…”
Later he says:
“There is none who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince.”
The “prince of Persia” and later the “prince of Greece” are described as powerful spiritual beings influencing earthly kingdoms. Michael, meanwhile, is specifically connected to Israel.
These passages occur before Israel existed and clearly describe heavenly beings, not human beings. In fact that’s why the term in scripture “sons of men” is coined and made to distinguish from the “sons of God”
Deuteronomy 32 presents a remarkable picture:
After the nations were divided at Babel, God allotted the nations according to the number of the “sons of God,” but Israel remained His own special inheritance.
“But the LORD’s portion is His people, Jacob His allotted inheritance.” (Deut. 32:9)
This is why verse 9 is so important.
If it originally said “sons of Israel,” then verse 9 becomes somewhat redundant. Why would Moses feel the need to say “But the Lord’s portion was Jacob” if Israel was already included in the previous verse? It wouldn’t make as much logical sense.
But if it says “sons of God,” then the contrast becomes very powerful:
In the end, don’t take my word for it. Don’t take your pastor’s word for it. Don’t take a scholar’s word for it. Read the Scriptures for yourself. Study the arguments from every side. Examine the evidence. Pray and ask God to lead you into truth.
@M_Eashoo dude u have no idea what your even talking about u are rambling about nonsense and creating an entirely different doctrine according to your own head, im not interested in your speculative assumptions that change the entire narrative that’s been studied for millennia…
i actually took way more time then i should have explaining countering every claim you put before me… just read ur post, anyone who sees it objectively would say the same thing,..
so again ur pushing your own narrative that has absolutely no credibility aside from what comes up in your own head… The Trinity has been there “owlam”… which means eternal, perpetual, without beginning or end…. its seen all throughout the OT… and i’m not gonna argue with someone who doesn’t even understand Gods prophecy to Daniel delivered by the Angel Gabriel- because if you did you would see exactly what the sabbaths signified and how all of this is on Gods watch his sacred measured time… all stuff your contradicting..,Goodluck to you and honestly it makes sense your stance considering you believe we all can become God… have some humility bro
@M_Eashoo i don’t even know where you are trying to stand? are you Mormon? Do you not believe in Christ? and u see God as not the God of the most High? u are all over the place brother
i don’t think your reading though, it seems like your your reading to fit a narrative u have in ur head because none of what your saying is even remotely close to what the context and text is saying…. i can’t go back n forth with you when your inventing your own narrative… i’ve read the Bible through n through multiple times written series and had works published. i don’t claim to know everything but i do know what im talking about when it comes to this because it’s my passion,,, and again you can point to any passage you want but when your completely misreading its intention it becomes pointless
There’s no reason to have a pope and Peter was never the “1st pope” when Jesus said “and on this rock i will build my church” it was layered… peter=little rock… the Earth =Big rock and then Jesus himself=The ultimate rock…. and not to mention he deliberately took them to that region that was associated with rebellion curses and heavy pagan worship (on top of the gates of Hades). Jesus was reclaiming the nations back… he was establishing that he is here now and that the rebellious angels who were allotted over the nations failed miserably and corrupted humanity no longer are perverting the planet with darkness because the Messiah is here.
@M_Eashoo and FYI God creates light on Day 1.
The sun, moon, and stars don’t appear until Day 4.
So if your argument is:
“A day is only defined by the sun.”
Then Genesis immediately creates a problem because God is already numbering days before the sun exists my friend….
lol come on man.. you’re entire approach is built on a premise that “you’re” personal definitions override the text itself. That’s the first thing…
You are essentially saying:
“I reject the biblical author’s words unless they fit definitions I’ve decided are correct.”
That isn’t exegesis. That’s replacing Scripture with a private dictionary my friend. i’m not interested in in your own definitions..
1) The Holy Spirit is just YHWH’s words.”
Then why does the Holy Spirit speak, send, teach, testify, intercede, grieve, and make decisions?
* Acts 13:2 — “The Holy Spirit said, ‘Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul.’”
* Ephesians 4:30 — “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit.”
* 1 Corinthians 12:11 — The Spirit distributes gifts “as He wills.”
Words do not possess a will.
Words do not speak about themselves.
Words do not send missionaries.
The biblical text consistently presents the Holy Spirit as personal, not just a spoken message.
2. “Genesis 1:26 only proves two beings.”
Actually it proves neither two beings nor one being.
The point is that God says:
“Let Us make man in Our image.”
The text itself contains plurality.
The question becomes:
Who is the “Us”?
The Trinity explains it.
A heavenly council view explains it.
But saying:
“Definitely only two beings”
is not in the text.
That’s adding something to the text.
3. “Who walked with Adam? Who visited Abraham? Who spoke with Moses?”
these passages strengthen Christ’s divinity in fact.
we have historically understood these as manifestations of God prior to the incarnation.
For example:
* Genesis 18 — Abraham speaks with YHWH.
* Exodus 33 — Moses speaks with YHWH.
* John 1:18 says no one has seen the Father.
* Jesus says:
“Before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8:58)
So Christians don’t reject those appearances.
They often identify them as appearances of the pre-incarnate Son.
4)No old covenant and new covenant.”
This one is impossible to maintain biblically.
Jeremiah explicitly prophesies:
“I will make a new covenant.” (Jeremiah 31:31)
Jesus says:
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” (Luke 22:20)
The author of Hebrews spends chapters explaining the New Covenant.
You can disagree with Christian theology, but you cannot honestly claim the Bible never speaks of a New Covenant.
It does.
Repeatedly.
my friend i read scripture everyday i love the Word of God its oxygen to me, i pray that you are lead by truth and not your own definitions of what that looks like… None of what ur trying to say holds up remotely… But if you ever wanna talk truth i am here.. God Bless