You know people move on on their on way not all engenes can do that like you force them to do the narrative you wanted just please read the full context before bashing her seriously it’s exhausting to explain to people who closed their minds and push the narrative of OT7 as fake+
i feel like after listening to jungwons clip and talking to one of my friends from Korea i feel the need to say something..
he said: 그런 것 때문에 엔진들이 싸우는 게 보기가 좋지 않다. 솔직히 공연에도 방해가 된다.
“Because of things like that, seeing ENGENEs fight isn’t nice. Honestly, it also interferes with the performance.”
because 보기가 좋지 않다 is a way of saying
“It’s unpleasant to see.”
NOT
“I hate ot7.”
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who encourage those fights as not being fans.”
조장하다
Means „provoke“/ „stir up“
He’s NOT saying
“Everyone who disagrees.”
He’s most likely specifically referring to people he believes are actively fueling conflict.
Given the timing after the Lima concert where the physical altercations happened and the wording he chose, it’s reasonable to interpret his criticism as being directed toward people who were escalating and provoking conflict. (Both sides!)
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who incite/provoke those kinds of fights as not fans.”
The part 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들. (those who promote such disputes)
He did NOT say:
-People who believe ENHYPEN is 7 are fake fans.
-People who say the ot7 fanchant are fake fans.
-Anyone who misses the previous ENHYPEN is a fake fan.
Those sentences simply never left his mouth.
he used the verb 조장하다, which means:
to provoke/stir up/encourage conflict/fights- so grammatically, the main thing of his criticism is people who are provoking fights, not people holding a particular feeling/opinion.
where the disagreement comes from is the sentence:
‘Enhypen is 7’이라는 말은 우리끼리 싸우라는 이야기다.
“ENHYPEN is 7’ is a statement that tells us to fight among ourselves.”
Some interpret this as:
“Therefore, anyone who says ENHYPEN is 7 is provoking conflict.”
Others interpret it as:
“He’s talking about people using that slogan in ways that create fights.”
That extra connection people made is an interpretation..
His main focus was on the fighting:
The repeated topic was conflict, not simple opinions.
We would like to urge people to stop spreading mistranslations of Heeseung's words just to create a narrative that aligns with their beliefs. It only causes conflicts, incites panic and arguments, lastly it only creates hate aimed at Heeseung. You may not like him, but the least you can do is not spread a mistranslation that can garner hate for him.
He's already experienced immense amounts of hate, let's not keep adding to that. The fandom is already in shambles, let's stop creating unwanted drama, let's not fuel any more conflicts.
While we're on the topic, we do not wish to see anyone spread hate towards Jay or Jungwon for what has been said recently either. We must remember that everything is not always as it seems. The members are not in an easy situation, we need to understand that sometimes matters can be influenced by third parties many of the times. I am not trying to imply anything with that, it's simply a fact. We do not know what goes on behind the scenes. We need to keep being level-headed, understand the situation on a deeper level.
None of the seven boys deserve any hate. All seven of them are the biggest victims here - never forget that.
I'm not shutting up about this marketing strategy, well done belift
ENGENEs demand a clear statement from BELIFT to prevent confusion and unnecessary hate towards ENHYPEN. Speak up and protect your artists.
#BeliftLabSpeakUp#MassBoycottHYBE
JAYWON are the biggest ot7. Lol I'm not falling for whatever they are saying.
I'm not switching sides, and I'm definitely not stopping the protest.
The company still has to answer for everything.
If ENHYPEN is six now, and Heeseung is an independent artist now-
-Why can't they mention each other?
-Why can't they play each other's songs?
-Why can't they do challenges together?
-Why they have to act like Heeseung was never a part of ENHYPEN?
.....
We can’t go silent now. HYBE’s official website proves BELIFT monitors fan trends.They are watching. Don't let our voices fade. Keep posting, keep discussing, and keep organizing. Stay active, stay loud, and SHARE THE PROOF! AND BE LOUDER DONT GIVE UP. REMEMBER ITS ALL MARKETING
So i watched the live.
So here's what jungwon ACTUALLY said.
- he said that he doesn't want the fans to fight.
- he never said the fanchant disrupts their performance, he said the fight disrupts the performance.
- he said he won't consider the people causing fights fans.
again, why are we blaming heeseung? yall blame everyone but belift. it was belift’s responsibility to give us proper closure but no, they include him wherever they see profit and exclude him whenever they want. get it through your thick skulls, no one is to blame except belift