@SportsBoyTony@CLARK910x@Terry_itat Carson Beck was the highest paid and Mendoza isnt a number 1 overall talent. He is just the 1st Qb who will be possibly drafted. He needs more athleticism to rise all boats on the teams he is possibly headed to. The AFC West is loaded so I see a mid rookie QB in his 1st yr
@thedawgspodcast Didn't know Shough was playing with:
Backup LT
Backup Center
3rd RG
Backup RT
Rookie UDFA #2 WR
No True #1 Wr
Rookie TE
Practice squad TE
3 Rookie RBs
Not to mention Shough had 100% organizational belief from day 1 which allowed he to be properly developed vs being 4th string
@bruce74255589@thedawgspodcast The context missing in this is the reason why having conversations about real football is dead. The offensive infrastructures are completely different. The Saints have better WRs, TEs, Rbs, Lineman, Coaching and 100% organizational belief in the young QB that prepared him day 1
@SportsCenter@mspears96 I guess Lamar Fumbled against Buffalo and Detroit too huh. Did Lamar give up thousands upon thousands of passing yards on a defense and organization known for great defense?? Only in a cold Hell are the Ravens better off without Lamar Jackson
@Vasownboss@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom Its not that serious. Just having a fun contextualized football conversation. Our personal opinions don't matter because they aren't determining factors in other peoples success. Kinda like If i say Joe Montana is the goat, who cares its my opinion. Have a fantastic Christmas
@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom You really just didn't comprehend what you just wrote. You said "when he plays like this." What is he supposed to play like as a rookie, with other rookies, backup players, bad line, zero run game, bad coaching and an organization that hasn't won its division since 1989? Tell me
@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom The situation is below ideal. Outside of the rookies, udfa wr's, horrible line, no running game, bad coaching, he wasn't even being developed properly as a rookie. He got his first meaningful reps after the Ravens game. This is on top of everything else listed above
@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom This is how disingenuous this criticism is because now Caleb line was bad but I asked was it 2nd and 3rd string bad? Answer is No. Also he didn't play with rookies and UDFA at WR & RB. Then saying the Saints and Giants offenses are equally as bad as the Browns is a flat out lie
@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom Did Caleb ever play with 2nd and 3rd string lineman, 2 rookie UDFA receivers, rookie rb, rookie te all on the field at the same time? Sanders has shown progression given his circumstances and limited offense but please name another rookie playing with this bad a offensive unit
@aztrojan11@Jamarion10Fly@BrownsNationcom If Caleb played a full season with the offense the Browns played with last week how does he look? Same receivers and line no different. Also, Caleb played with significantly better weapons last year but for some reason this context is lost in the discussion
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan This how dumb you fans are. Watson making 45 million on the sidelines. Then you expect the organization to pay a rookie another 50 million guaranteed?? And yes rookies in the top half of the draft get guaranteed contracts now. I'll ride with Shadeur and allocate funds elsewhere
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan You haven't won the division since 1989, shut yo weak ass up. Y'all got nothing but time and zero expectations. You been a loser your whole life π π . Mendoza not captain saver Brown. He is definitely not winning a super bowl in the AFC anytime soon with that poverty franchise
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan You just drafted Baker #1 overall most recently and traded him after he won you a playoff game lol
Build up your team like the 49ers, Eagles have done recently and have a team that takes pressure off the QB
You Cleveland fans really are trash lol
Go Ravens!
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan Oh so now 5th round picks don't deserve time, Ok... List of Players drafted after the 5th round:
Tom Brady 6th
Tyreek Hill 5th
Stefon Diggs 5th
Terrell Davis 6th
Shannon Sharpe 7th
Mark Brunell 5th
Zach Thomas 5th
Kevin Greene 5th
The list is huge if you want more... Simpleton
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan Tom Brady was a 6th round pick and wasn't great during New England's Super Bowl run that year. He had multiple games of 2+ interceptions and was sacked 7 times in one game as well. The difference was his team and coaching were superior. Stop arguing football. Logic kills
@lantz_brett@acase22@923TheFan Higher picks equal higher expectations. You really aren't the brightest star in the galaxy making that point as it strengthens Sanders argument being a 5th rounder. Why did the guys above play so poorly as rookies??? Answer that question
@acase22@lantz_brett@923TheFan You are woefully unprepared for this conversation and you are right they did worse!
Josh Allen had 213 yds lost on sacks
10 Tds and 12 int and 4 wins as a rookie
Manning 28 int 3 wins
Bradshaw 24 int 5 wins
Elway 7 Tds 14 int 4 wins
Aikman 9 Tds 18 picks zero wins