@divdot I'm conflicted on stuff like this. Pushing for a while together and clearing together is definitely more hype/emotional versus going back in for the one, so I understand the feeling of missing out. I prefer to clear together unless it's a matter of something like a week 1.
@DetGoose@envinyon Does this also mean you couldn't really do anything than spam a fake 123 or spam glare? Like it sounds like it's a lagged out state, so I'd imagine you wouldn't be building gauge or anything right?
@miersoroja@skullkerskullks I sometimes do this with cheaper minions or furnishings. Rather someone that wants it just basically take it from me than trash it at an NPC and it's not worth pricing competitively because I don't want to baby sit it for 4k gil.
@feydemon It's only a benefit in having freedom to join an FC for social reasons and potentially leave the FC later without losing "your" house. If you don't want FCs for social reasons then you can just use an FC house. Can sell your FC along with its house later if you change your mind.
@ruruponxiv I think the MAIN pride point has always been can all 8 players pass the 20 minute choke check.*
People can arbitrarily draw their lines in the sand and increase or decrease difficulty as they see fit as long as it's not changing what the mechanic expects of you in the moment.
@ruruponxiv Sure, that can contribute to its difficulty. So does the puzzle, so does doing it 100% blind. So many factors can affect how fast you prog. It feels weird to make that the pride point. I think the pride point has always been can all 8 players pass the 20 minute choke check.
@Regar_XIV I think the ultimate experience is more of a 20 minute endurance/choke check rather than how long it took to get there. The climax is always that fishing for the clean pull and you have that with or without sims. That's my opinion as someone who has done it both ways. 3/3
@Regar_XIV Did you do it blind? Another team solved the puzzle for you? 9th man/analyst team? Sims? Playing with cleared ppl (c41s/saus)? This only really represents a group rather than an individual. Did you have to wait for others to catch up? So in PF case why would someone care? 2/3