@WorldAffec20542@OginiSolomon And we never changed the narrative. We didn't say that: bdo determine the goat and then said that it doesn't... We always used bdo as an indication; look Messi is the best, he does things that nobody else can do at their 50%, and he has 3,4 bdo in a raw... That's how we thought
@WorldAffec20542@OginiSolomon And yes,you mocked Messi for mot winning anything with a bad Argentina were he was the only one of their big names that actually performed at the biggest stage.Then Messi wom everything and you changed it again.We always said yhat titles are irrelevant, that it's about skills
@WorldAffec20542@OginiSolomon Messi was compared to Maradona Cruyff and Pele before winning his 3rd bdo in 2011 in some cases... Noone said anything ever before 2016 about CR7. It was a joke, a forced debate noone followed and you guys started talking after 2016. You changed the narrative million times
@WorldAffec20542@OginiSolomon What happened in 2016? Tell me something, what happened before 2016? CR7 was never relevant to any discussion back then. You know that right? In my country I remember journalists comparing Messi to Marafona and Pele in 2011,in England Peter Drury did the same...
@WorldAffec20542@OginiSolomon Nah don't think we were born yesterday; you were the one who said that Messi needed to win something with Argentina and then he won everything and you changed again the narrative!But when a player dives some will mock it. What's your issue with clear CR7 dives that he always did?
@kyle_selman@UtdDitu Why mate? When exactly is a player's win? The fact that Messi carried his teams in a way we have never seen before (only maybe from Maradona) doesn't mean he won those trophies. Could Ronaldo win the titles he won without his teams? Could Messi?No. Everyone contributes to a win
@bredarba@sazzyLM8 No. If you carry the ball and you pass someone that is 10 meters away from you is that a dribble?Do some research and READ THE GODDAMN DEFINITION! See what a dribble is according to opta. Carrying the ball meams get the ball and run or walk with it!IT'S NOT DRIBBLING you ignorant
@sazzyLM8 Look, ball carrying isn't dribbling. They are different things. Modric for example is one of the best players ever at carrying the ball. He isn't much of a dribbler though, he's not Neymar or Hazard. Ball carrying and dribbling are different things. But dribbling helps a lot
@RayRedRealist@TceMafia@TUCO187187 Oh and if you do research, SHOW ME SOFASCORE, WHOSCORED, MESSIVSRONALDO (that use opta's data)OR OPTA'S SOURCES! ANY RANDOM X POST ISN'T ARGUEMENT AND IT'S VERY EASY TO DEBUNK.
@RayRedRealist@TceMafia@TUCO187187 Untill you do that,you're the clueless one,you are the ignorant oligophrenic football flat earther who thinks that winning titles with 11 players somehow makes you better.CR7 would be worse scorer if he hadn't won 5 UCL's right?That's your logic.STOP TALKING TITLES, TALK STATS
@RayRedRealist@TceMafia@TUCO187187 Well it's your reasoning actually. You speak of titles, awards etc. But you never speak of actall football skills. Find me a season where CR7 had 3 dribbles per game, 15+ assists, 30+ goals, 10+throughballs,70+ key passes, 20+big chances created and I'll admit he's equal to Messi
@TceMafia@TUCO187187 Also what Messi did is way harder than changing constantly teams and moving always to the best team of each league(Juve 2018 where they had won 7 league titles in a raw and reached 2 UCL finals when italian teams didn't even qualify for the ko and SAF's man utd)or going to madrid
@TceMafia@TUCO187187 What isn't consecutive? Winning 3 CONSECTUTIVE TITLES in a season isn't consectutive? Are you serious? Damn Messi haters are indeed as smart as a bananna. They don't even know the meaning of words😂
@alhajjibugatti_@Those101Things You probably watch football from reels and have zero comprehension skills mate. Just do some research. Barca problems, barca BIG PROBLEMS started from 16-17 season and ended when Messi left. But the economic problems started before 15 UCL win it just exploded later
@alhajjibugatti_@Those101Things Then don't argue about when barca went bankrupt or to be precise when it began to have HUGE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS because they staryed WAY BEFORE 2018