Orman

Livestreaming from the mind of an engineer sometimes pretending to be a dragon. Also geekery and Scottish millennial politics. (he/him) pfp @Corvirav

[Orman @LizardOrman]

Troof https://t.co/TurMWH4CKc

[SwiftOnSecurity @SwiftOnSecurity]

Everything is more complicated than you can imagine.

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@a_manning0 @LukasHozda IIRC the main benefit is that it has less/smaller(?) potential soundness holes

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@magusbr @LukasHozda We just need a "Let's talk about C..." section

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@coolkoon @LukasHozda Most projects can delegate

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@a_manning0 @LukasHozda IIRC selfcell is the improvement over ouroboros, FWIW.

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@kulkalkul @redixhumayun @LewisCTech @LukasHozda ...That's just the normal requirement of all interfaces?

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@minz_anupam @LukasHozda Yes, that's the point - minimizing the boundary of potentially-unsound code

[Orman @LizardOrman]

@LuisUr288 @Devils_Tooth @TheatreSpoonie @LGBwiththeT Yes because things are expecting to have either elevated estrogen or higher levels of testosterone, but not both. AFAIK all the alleged negatives of puberty blockers that aren't just "you have the health risk profile of the assumed sex" go away as a result of having the other one

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@LuisUr288 @Devils_Tooth @TheatreSpoonie @LGBwiththeT Suppresants are not the same thing as puberty blockers.

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@emojibakemono @ClassicGamerTWR you can do that /as well/? isn't having lots of threads go's whole thing? (I don't write go myself)

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@paul_e_jones @ClassicGamerTWR ...So you do a bunch of things to mitigate potentially bad or faulty code sneaking into the end product? That's what rust does too, just more comprehensively. It's not one or the other, you use a language that has infinitely higher standards for valid code, *and* test and review

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@paul_e_jones @ClassicGamerTWR Rust basically exists because you can't "write it correctly to start with" with an error rate comparable to that of cosmic rays causing rustc to malfunction, and/or you need to take unnecessary runtime costs to do so.

[Orman @LizardOrman]

@paul_e_jones @ClassicGamerTWR Sure, you can use unsafe to avoid that last bounds check (but often there's alternatives) or calling into C, but... that means you're at the same level as the C++, not any worse. And you only need to scrutinize those calls, whereas you need to scrutinize all C++ everywhere

[Cora Harrington @CoraCHarrington]

I think a lot of people overestimate just how much Internet - especially the old Internet - the Wayback Machine has saved. There seems to be an assumption that everything which has ever existed online *must* be out there, somewhere, and that isn’t true.

[Orman @LizardOrman]

@tracewoodgrains @harpersealtako2 Websites are restricting all sorts of material that may or may not fall under the act out of an abundance of caution

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@tracewoodgrains @harpersealtako2 You're assuming twitter's actions are motivated sensibly

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@robokoteg @ClassicGamerTWR FWIW someone linked thm elsewhere in the thread and the numbers are even more revealing https://t.co/OsavSluNXk

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@ClassicGamerTWR @yourerightson @JLarky @LukasHozda "...the rollback rate of Rust changes is less than half that of C++."
"To date, there have been zero memory safety vulnerabilities discovered in Android’s [1.5MLOC] Rust code."
"Historical vulnerability density is greater than 1/kLOC"

Fail to establish a correlation? lolno

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@robokoteg @ClassicGamerTWR Not to mention that blog article from Google reporting zero memory safety issues in their rust components in Android

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@mav3ri3k @HSVSphere There's laziness in the chunk().map() section because you're not landing the mapped chunks until you do the collect()

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@HSVSphere Its kinda annoying there's no stdlib combinator for doing chunks() over an iterator that's not a slice

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@hecubian_devil Not to mention, having asked the question "neutrally," picking out an implication of the answer as "obvious" is an extremely loaded thing. Because I'm sure he does not mean the "obvious" reason that, y'know, Christians left fianancial services to others for religious reasons

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@ClassicGamerTWR @yourerightson @JLarky @LukasHozda "...the rollback rate of Rust changes is less than half that of C++."
"To date, there have been zero memory safety vulnerabilities discovered in Android’s [1.5MLOC] Rust code."
"Historical vulnerability density is greater than 1/kLOC"

Fail to establish a correlation? lolno