Matthew

“I’m just a nobody trying to tell everybody all about somebody that saved my soul”

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant 6/6

view but is a first cause person agent choice that can only be made by the agent themselves completely separate from God’s creating them as the unique person they are and therefore no way for God to know it based on creating them as the individual person they are.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant 5/6

100% fact of one thing they would absolutely choose and therefore there was no choosing by the human before it was locked down as 100% only possible that they would ever pick one thing. And in your lfw their choice is not based on who they are like it is in our compatiblist

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant 5/5

according to it, just like God Himself.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant 4/5

the human faculties to choose. Just because who you are would never choose certain choices, does not mean they weren’t there for you to choose or that you didn’t make a choice. Freedom of choice isn’t the ability to choose against your own nature (who you are) but choose

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@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant If you say human choices are logically before creation then you are saying God looks into the future and sees the choice and then his 100% knowledge and choices of creation are based on that.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant It is logical priority. There are dependent things before and after creation.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant No. He knows exactly what any human would do in any given circumstance including being corrupted by sin because he created them as the individual person that they are. Its compatiblist free will not lfw.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant The only way there can be multiple options that stay open that the humans could actually pick is if in God‘s mind He looks into the future as I said and the one option is only post human picking, or He doesn’t know an exact choice he just knows multiple options before creation

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant No. It’s only possible for you to have actually made the choice first before God created if he is looking into the future to see your actual choice and creating based on that. Otherwise you never made a choice till it was 100% guaranteed to be one thing before creation.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant As I said before, it’s only possible for there to be a number of actual possible choices that could end up being picked if God doesn’t know for certain the exact choice before creation.

[Matthew @Matthew0390]

@CooperGMacBride @ReformedRant It’s the same as our model. You’re just diluting yourself with possible choices that could never actually happen. This doesn’t mean humans don’t make a choice. They choose according to what they want of their own volition which is why they are responsible for it.