@VVindsofVVinter@tripoli_bonds Totally understand (one piece sucks).
You're probably right. I have no ill will towards any of you, but was just trying to appeal to reason after being called a nazi on repeat for like 6 days when I was never espousing hate.
I apologize if the youtube acc plug was in poor taste
@r3quiredreading@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes There will always be fat cats in an aid effort. That does not mean we shouldn't try. Posting things like this is pointless and makes you look heartless. It does nothing but hurt the causes that you support!
@r3quiredreading@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes And what does this image prove, in your view? Is it productive? Does it discount the mass-hunger? Does it do anything other than reflect inhumanity in the face of atrocity?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes And if subject matter experts ultimately declare that the levels currently being delivered are insufficient, will you join me in calling for more? Why not spend your time trying to discuss improvements rather than insulting people? What does equating me to the big evil even do?
@VVindsofVVinter@tripoli_bonds And I think their hyperbole is destructive. Fighting that hyperbole should be the goal. When bond dogs attack the folks who *aren't* hateful, does it really do anything but help the hyperbolic leftists? Why downplay engaging in that channel of interaction if it just aids them?
@VVindsofVVinter@tripoli_bonds I think we see a lot more of it than you think. I just don't really see the material benefit of fighting back like this. Like don't you see how arguing like these people do just amplifies the hatred? Is saying "well, these guys do it" really worth anything at the end of the day?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes Does this help your point at all? What does this do other than waste my time?
I am aware of the hatred between these populations. I don't think that justifies atrocity against civilians (50% are children!). Why do you spend your time attacking people who want to prevent that?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes This is just another slop post. Don't you see how posting this stuff in a serious conversation just defeats the purpose? Don't you think engaging honestly about the actual issues could be productive? Your approach here is just proving it is a propaganda war too!
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes When there is conflicting evidence between a state actor and an international organization, whose evidence should we trust? Does COGAT track outcome data? Was this analysis based on what actually made it to people or overall targets? These are things to think about!
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes Again, this is just reactionary. We can talk about the data at any time! Do you ever wonder why of the 67 unique comments you posted, only around 5 of them were an attempt at evidence? Don't you think that might be a dishonest way of engaging? I certainly think so!
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes This shows how providing for these people can work! You are proving my point! If you want to prevent radicalization, you have to prevent civilian suffering. We should make sure as many people as possible aren't malnourished. Like that should be the goal!
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes Another reactionary slop video. I am beginning to think your goal here was to waste my time rather than have a conversation. You definitely succeeded. I'll still try, though. Do you realize how many people live there, and how isolated videos may not be indicative of the reality?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes And what does providing inadequate aid do for these people? Do you think it makes their job any harder? Think about the war of propaganda going on behind the scenes. How else should we combat it?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes There are countless horrible people involved. That does not justify the collective punishment of the people they victimize. Does that make sense?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes It is a war of propaganda. Committing human rights abuses does not help your side win that war of propaganda. It only empowers the propagandists! Think about why that might be!
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes This is just slop. You know it's slop. I don't understand how you can post this stuff with a straight face when there is genuine human suffering going on here.
Why do you consistently favor the lowest possible standard of evidence when there is systemic evidence available?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes So again, when the civilians there do not receive adequate food, and malnourishment continues, who are they going to blame? If they don't see this stuff transpire (which was not found to have happened systemically, but whatever), what does sending insufficient aid do?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes Look at the area outside, man. Was an effort to make living there any less horrible a waste of time to you? Should we stop trying to do it? Don't you think there's a material benefit to showing people that you're the good guys?
@TheSylvreWolfe@tripoli_bonds@Sisyphus_smokes You know this isn't productive. I believe that you are ultimately a genuine person. When you post things like this, do you think it helps or hurts support for the causes you support? Does it help to convince people or does it help the opposing propagandists? Think about it