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@shl No. Industrial society is ending due to a lack of energy. The opposite of automation will happen: A lot of people doing things that machines used to do.
@bearded1_one Bingo. It seems a lot of people have no idea what dumping fossil fuels actually means for them and their lives. Most simply are not ready to accept that no more oil means no more iPhones, individual travel, and other conveniences of modern life.
@NickCowern Because none of us wants to reduce their standard of living. As long as people want the next iPhone, the next holiday in Bermuda, and the next toy to fill the hole in their lives, we won't get off our addiction to oil.
@KetanJ0 Yes but that's because we all want it that way. If we want to get off oil we need to reduce our standard of living drastically. Nobody wants to do that.
@AlbertaLeonidas Hours if not minutes.
The electrical grid is already under enormous strain. Behind closed doors they are saying that there will an EU-wide blackout within the next 5 years. Lots of people will die from that.
This teslabot is another piece if vapourtech by and for utopianists. In a future of scarcity where we won't have enough energy and resources this thing will be useless.
@KarlHeinzHasliP To some extent yes. But industrial production, modern agriculture, and transport as we know them now won't be possible any more. Most people do not understand what this actually means for them and their way of living.
@KarlHeinzHasliP I think renewables are great on a small and individual scale. But to run a whole industrial economy with them is not possible. But we don't really have a choice. We are running out of oil we can extract cheaply so it's either renewables or nothing.
@KarlHeinzHasliP Well, it would mean end of industrial civilization as renewables can't fill the gap. Not a bad thing per se, but a scenario most people cannot fathom and simply are not prepared for.
@KarlHeinzHasliP It won't happen that fast. But production is already decreasing since 2018/19 and negative feedback loops will cause oil production to fall off a cliff in the coming years.
@LieutDunbar @KulonMusk @chigrl No, I am simply looking at the facts and at what happened before and after numerous collapses that took place earlier. Things don't look good. But if someone can put together a miracle solution that actually works and which will end our energy problem, I will gladly accept it.
@LieutDunbar @KulonMusk @chigrl No.
1) Oil production will fall off a cliff, no smooth transition
2) Nothing in sight that could replace oil
3) Our whole infrastructure is centered around oil
4) Even if we had a replacement available it would take decades to adapt all infrastructure
= MAJOR economic problems
@LieutDunbar @KulonMusk @chigrl Yes, lack of labor is a problem. But what if there's not enough oil? Then we can chose whether we want to use it to keep up food production, or transport, or industrial production. It also means that the economy as a whole will shrink and become less complex.