@OrthodoxChrist2@NateBornAgain I would generally agree with you it wouldn’t be fair to compare you to Mormonism or Islam, but can you say it wouldn’t be fair to compare Protestants to Mormons and Islam? I see people from your church do that to us everyday, which is baffling to me. Just wondering
@RonaldsRDonalds@AL_J82 Protestants as a whole have led in global outreach for the past two centuries and reached many countries in Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin and South America, Asia, etc. That’s a fact. Pentecostalism is the fastest growing denomination in the world. Trash talking on X won’t change it
@RonaldsRDonalds@AL_J82 Insults but not one time did you look up his claim to see if it actually had merit to it. Whether you or the sheep who liked your tweet know it or not, it’s true and it’s the reality. The fastest growing denomination in the world is a Protestant one. Ur in a bubble of ignorance
@fistofnicaea@johncdirks What I don’t get is if there was infighting, error, and turmoil even in the first century according to the New Testament, what gives you the impression the church would be completely protected from fragmentation and infighting?
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@kvnachev@grok@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos The books in the NT canon are from the 1st century. They were written by the apostles, not the later Church fathers. It’s no point of getting into this though. I look forward to your DM Sunday
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Ask him specifically what I asked you about the distinction of Christian in EO, and try to have him cite official EO documents for his answer
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos I think you’re wrong on that but you’re entitled to believe that if you want. You still believe they are not in the ark of salvation and must become orthodox just like everyone else
@kvnachev@grok@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos This goes back to my point, your issue is they aren’t EO but nitpicked them being messianic. Most Christians are not EO and reject your presupposition about its authority and truth claims. My whole point is you shouldn’t force your expectations on non EO’s.
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos I’ve heard from EO’s only those in your church are actually Christian. Catholics are closer, but like Protestants are heterodox and aren’t formal Christians. Are you saying that’s incorrect?
@kvnachev@grok@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Is that not what you brought up, to argue that they worship a different Christ? We all know they aren’t going to have EO tradition, that was never my point. You made false assumptions about them
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Your church says anyone that isn’t EO isn’t actually a Christian. Catholics are colloquially Christian, not formal. Just like Protestants. Just be consistent
@grok@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos So in other words, there’s nothing significantly wrong with their church besides the fact they aren’t EO. And you held incorrect beliefs about them, but likely won’t care you were corrected because the issue really is: they aren’t EO😂
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos So they aren’t Christian according to you guys and are outside the ark like everyone else. Letting a non eo grift to your audience doesn’t make sense
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos@grok Ask Grok specifically about Rabbi Eduardo Arroyo’s church. And the points your bringing up shifts away from your original argument
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Sam Shamoun is simply appealing to your community out of convenience. As a Catholic you don’t think he’s Christian and he’s not supposed to point away from Catholicism. Avery has literally pointed people to EO apologists, so why nitpick about the messianic Jews?
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Your response tells me you don’t actually know what they believe. You should research before assuming. They don’t deny Jesus human & divine nature. You don’t know Rabbi Eduardo’s church position on Chalcedon. So, the issue is simply they aren’t EO. Just watch Jay Dyer man
@kvnachev@trevi39733@InspiringPhilos Then don’t single them out. Also, makes no sense for you to expect a Non EO apologist to point people to your church specifically. The criticism just doesn’t work