@DMichaelTripi You've reported hours ago footage of the aftermath of the accident with clearly visible plane debris. You then share a low quality dashcam clip of the crash from a mile away at night and you raise suspicions. What are you peddling? Is this journalism or engagement farming?
Ah yes, the lenient benevolent Christians. Your retelling of history is rose-tinted and romanticized. Reality was quite messy in contrast. (https://t.co/Xm0dccz1Rt)
You won't find a single instance of such atrocities and mayhem in the whole of Islamic history because its forbidden. At least we have rules of war, Crusaders killed everything that breathed.
No wonder you hate Islam if you think this is the message, but you're hating a strawman. This isn't Islam, these verses have been edited, the meaning changed and they are completely decontextualized. You should read the Qur'an for yourself. I'm sure you'll quickly realize those who fed you this image are heavily biased and they try to push an anti-islam rhetoric and sadly you fell for it.
I could go one by one but I'll just take these two out of twelve in that pic because of how insane they spun them (check Alt for more).
Surah Al-Anfal 8 :12
Claim
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Quran.”
Context: an order from God to angels
Surah Al-Hajj 22 :19
Claim
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies.”
Context: God punishing people in Hell (no Muslims involved)
Actual Verses
@TheRealSmulk @purplepillz_@reddit_lies You cherry-pick the Qur'an and the Bible, at least you're consistent.
Your Prince of Peace didn't come with peace, fascinating. One could call that a contradiction.
We've seen what Christian rule does to its minorities, that's what is not pretty.
In contrast, Al-Andalus (Spain) under Muslim rule during the golden age of Islam was the center of learning across the continent and it was one of the most diverse societies of the medieval world. Nice try though.
The stories we hear are truly unfortunate and represent a failure of the justice system in these countries to uphold Islamic law as it was intended, as well as turning a blind eye to acts of vigilantism going unpunished. It harms the image of Islam the most and I condemn it.
As for the 'no true scotsman' fallacy, you misunderstood the situation. There is no arbitrary redefinition or moving of goalposts. Islam is not arbitrarily defined; it is based on the Qur'an and Sunnah which provide clear, objective standards. When a Muslim acts against those teachings, their actions do not represent Islam. This isn’t changing the goalposts, it's applying Islam consistently. To put it another way, Islam sets a high standard and while many humans claim affiliation with this standard, their actions often fall short. I hope that makes sense.
Any book can be distorted and its text misinterpreted. It reveals more about the interpreter's ignorance or biases, their disregard for the proper context or sometimes even deliberate manipulation than what the author intended.
There's a way to interpret the Qur'an. Failing to follow the proper methodology will lead to deviant groups like ISIS. We have mechanisms in place to prevent that from happening but there's no way to prevent people from going astray by doing their own thing.
Who? You found an unknown unhinged position and you present it as the norm. It only works on ignorants.
The Messenger of Allah said:
“No one has ever eaten better food than what he eats as a result of the labour of his hands. God’s prophet David used to eat from what he had worked for with his hands.” (Bukhari transmitted it) - Mishkat al-Masabih 2759
“'If one of you were to take his rope (or ropes) and go to the mountains, and bring a bundle of firewood on his back to sell, and thus become independent of means, that would be better for him than begging from people who may either give him something or not give him anything.'” - Sunan Ibn Majah 1836
"The upper hand is better than the lower hand; the upper hand is that which gives and the lower hand is that which asks." - Sunan an-Nasa'i 2533
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, 'He is not one of us who cheats."' - Sunan Ibn Majah 2224
Regardless of who anyone brings, the position of any Muslim is to be rejected if it goes against the texts. We never follow the creation over the Creator.
@BoyWonderPro@politicalMavv@smile2jannah Tate is being rebuked by the muslim community because he's wrong alleging that:
1) Islamic teachings have anything to do with these crimes, therefore these are not 'islamic crimes'
2) Muslims don't condone grooming gangs
As a Muslim, do you not see a problem with his denunciation of 'Islamic crimes' when there is nothing islamic about them? You've made the same mistake he's made with his poor choice of words.
These crimes are severely punished in Islam yet he made a false equivocation tying these heinous crimes to the religion as if it had anything to do with it when in reality it unequivocally forbids them. You might want to re-evaluate your stance on supporting Tate on this one.