@MartinusLogicus If you openly steal your parents tv and snort Crack every day and beat your mother. And they finally call the cops and send you to jail? Did they stop loving you? Or were you so far gone from your own choices you removed yourself from that love?
Not hard questions.
@gmNoxPrime@Leaflit And if they die or suffer horribly from the underground abortion. Both the doctor involved will be stopped and women will stop going to him. Again from a totally utilitarian aspect. Unsafe abortion is better because it will stop the offender with negative consequence
@gmNoxPrime@Leaflit Again if the unsafe ones kill those women it prevents them from killing more babies from future abortions. So you lose that net positive.
If she lives and kills 4 more babies. You already lost the argument.
@gmNoxPrime@Leaflit Terrible garbage women suffering horrible consequences for underground abortions will 100% stop bortions. Because the people doing so will die or suffer infertility.
Overall over time less people die. So abortion fails the utilitarian ideal. Especially if the ho does mutliple.
@CrazyBurnyGuy@far_exponent@DanielN10083152@TheDJ_King You already got made fun of for this. Coming back and pretending relevance is just sad. We get it you only understand empiracle evidence and lack the IQ to read or debunk the evidence given lmao it never gets old.
@far_exponent@CrazyBurnyGuy@DanielN10083152@TheDJ_King Ah yes the part where you were so incompetant you proved me right. And it was STILL just you sucking on bertrand and not addressing any of the actual evidence lmao
@far_exponent@CrazyBurnyGuy@DanielN10083152@TheDJ_King Lmao your tiny IQ understanding of quantum vacuums doesnt undo the unmoved mover concept. You cant find a perpetual energy source in the physical universe that can follow your naturalistic rules.
That's the point.
@far_exponent@CrazyBurnyGuy@DanielN10083152@TheDJ_King What the fuck are you talking about? My claim was I have evidence and you remedials have emotional responses that never address that evidence. You proved that in spades lmao
@far_exponent@CrazyBurnyGuy@DanielN10083152@TheDJ_King The fact I have to explain to you that no one thinks the big bang started from nothing and that's the point compounded with the unmoved mover concept that makes materialism illogical makes this funnier and keeps proving the point.