@isisbaconator@RyanSmithIsLarp@memeticsisyphus Except, whether or not God existsโฆ
๐ โฆ objective morality does exist.
๐ โฆ laws would exist.
๐ โฆ waking up everyday is a sort of miracle.
@AngelinaReagan7 People in both parties love babies.
And of all the behavior Jesus knows โ how you care for the poor and the least among us, etc โ how you vote is not towards the top of the list.
Consider maybe not being judgmental. THAT, unlike voting, is something Jesus did talk about.
@Adi957966285691@alxalidi@Anglo_Catholica@RevertStoriesx Itโs also been a long time since the words in the Bible were written.
Do you think God is still adjusting his message? If so, then maybe we should replace the Bible with something else.
@MitchWaystone Except there isnโt really cosmic design and there most certainly isnโt objective morality.
Directed reason and logic donโt prove God. Even claiming they do is completely circular, since the claim itself uses logic.
These are just terrible reasons to think God is real.
@RandyHRogers@God_Questioner Thatโs not what the word means, though.
(A)gnosticism is about knowing. While (a)theism is about believing.
Those arenโt the same thing. Knowing is a subset of believing. Everything you know you also believe but not everything that you believe you know.
@Vandalsavage444@atheistnightmrs@Stylusmq Agreed. Also, evolution and theism are mostly unrelated.
That is, it could be the evolution is true AND there is a god. Or that evolution is false and also there is no God. Or any combination of those.
@samulationn@skarjay92@GodlyAction Truth is objective when it comports with objective reality. It is subjective when it comports with subjective reality.
Morality ONLY exists is subjective reality. Because it is a judgement and judgements are necessarily mind-dependent.
Making morality subjective.
@Kaosreincarnate No, unfortunately Iโve long known that bigots and racists exist. Then add to that your stunning lack of information about basic things, and none of it is even surprising.
@AshWill57842909@GambleLo222 And yet a majority of the people in the world believe in God. And even among those who donโt, many once believed in God.
Your claim is just demonstrably false.
@5Strat God himself interfered with the free will of voters. In one particular country. To โpickโ a man of demonstrably low morals.
What about that makes sense?
@Putzy77615@macsche2@lastkafir Well, God would have to exist in the first place. But that asideโฆ
What has you concluding that dying is going from existence to non-existence?
When humans die they still exist, albeit in a very different form.
@GypsyRose_onX@TherionWare A full explanation with examples
- vs -
A 3-word counter argument with no explanation
I wonder which I should find more credible?
@AhmadHa90394065@_Ochiedike Again, YOU might believe that. That is not in foundational Buddhist doctrine.
Look at the Three Jewels, the Four Noble Truth, the Eightfold Path. In none of them, not once, is belief in a God asked for.
@quejesuisbete@KurtAVFC Then you are disputing a figment of your imagination. That is NOT my claim.
My claim is that infinite regress is **possible** and that there is evidence of that possibility. Iโve told you over and over and over that this evidence isnโt conclusive. Go look, please.