Original Hobjo

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark fine, i'm happy to fundamentally disagree on that point. There is an eye of the beholder element to this which neither of us is going to succeed in transcending, so rather like a JR interview request, I suspect further discussion would be pointless.

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark So you're just ignoring it for the fun of playing this feeble game?

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@roddreher @DavidBe31099196 whatever else it is, I'm willing to bet that in this time of bien-pensant luxury revolutionary communism it WON'T be a faithful retelling of what was a tax revolt by the wealthy and landed - albeit one unhelpfully and inaccurately named by historians

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@ClarkeMicah slightly confusing complaint here. Are you annoyed about being called a communist? I'm not sure your distinctions make the case for Trotskyism not being a form of communism?? Or is it you never needed nor took the cure for communism because, as a Trot, you were never infected?

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark Comprehension isn't a choice. But lying about it is

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark he treated him differently back then because he remained friends with him. It is beyond debate that it was the issue, not the behaviour, that changed that

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark I have answered your questions patiently and repeatedly. Comprehension isn't a choice but lying about it is.

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark You’re ignoring my answer now which is where I expected this to lead tbf

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark And I do come back to the point that JR was close friends with GL when he was demolishing people for breakfast lunch and dinner on Twitter for years. That’s always been him. Ronson and Adam Buxton discussed how GL had gone beyond their in-group pale a while ago.

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark Well it’s besides the point you want to make about the exchange (ie JR’s) but not besides mine! I think it’s a bit naive to think JR is an even handed truth seeker, he’s outright saying he wants to talk about GL’s ‘journey’, not the actual issue

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@MrsNickyClark yes, much preferable to let it tear itself apart over the bien-pensant rights of men to dress up as women?

Astonishing how people engaged in a fundamental conflict of rights try to flatter themself that there's some easy middle ground that only they occupy

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark GL is saying we have no basis for discussion if you think black=white. Both are copping out to an extent but GL is right to suspect that the discussion will be about him, not the issue. JR is being disingenuous IMO (as his book has surely proven).

[Original Hobjo @OriginalHobjo]

@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark I was clarifying who I wish well. I didn't say anyone was stopping me, I was explaining how the ideology compels speech and values. Seems to me it's you who wishes to take individuals and claim injury on their behalf just because GL is a forceful critic of the ideology

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark i get the feeling this isn't your first rodeo so do you really want to do this 101 routine? I know what a woman is, don't believe it's kind to indulge pubescent confusion to life altering surgery, won't be compelled to murder linguistic meaning to pander to narcissism/solipsism

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@jpodhoretz Perry Mason another example. He always appears as 4th/5th lead in a show with stellar casts. Almost as if the big names always want to work with him

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark No I wish humans well. A confused individual living their life, I only have compassion for.

I don’t wish people who seek to compel my speech and values well. I will resist that.

These are not the same things and I think you’re obscuring this with me and on Ronson’s behalf

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark GL hasn’t changed. He was the witchfinder general on twitter for years. JR didn’t disavow until incredibly successful & aggressive ideological activism created a new rights supremacy overnight, demanding conformity. We all know that’s what happened, despite JR self revisionism

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark I’ve explained what is cowardly. It’s also cowardly to claim neutrality by pretending the issue isn’t a binary conflict of rights. I’m disinterested in anyone who identifies as trans and wish them well as a fellow human. But that’s not what this is about

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@CaraPac46808618 @MrsNickyClark I mean “wrong” as in “considered incorrect” by JR. GL’s behaviour online is unchanged in nearly two decades and I’ve never had any time for it, but his old friends didn’t seem to mind. The cowardice is ending a friendship over a bien-pensant issue then selling books off it

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@ArrC94 There’s no probably about it. Online Bears are becoming as much of a bed wetting embarrassment as the young team masking up to copy the Groin Brigade are