I don’t think these are particularly comparable. A Zionist debate moderator or journalist demanding a politician “condemn Hamas” is an example of a committed ideologue deploying a stock rhetorical technique to try to trap their interlocutor in a no-win question which frames the debate to the Zionist’s advantage.
Every time I have talked to a person who *doesn’t* have strong opinions on police/prisons abolition, who is not a professional propagandist, who is not relying on/hasn’t learned rhetorical tricks to navigate the conversation—just a regular person—the *first* thing they ask is some version of “but what about murderers and pedophiles?”
It’s not a good analogy because the question is often deeply sincere and basically a universal, naive response to abolitionist proposals. People *really do want to know the answer* to this question, when introduced to these ideas. I have talked to lots of regular folks about it—not professional takesters or highly ideological, highly-engaged politics nerds, but just normal people, usually in the context of labor organizing. They always ask “what about the murderers?”
And the thing is, I’ve read a bunch of stuff from Kaba and I basically don’t think she ever does answer this question! Not directly—she very studiously, deliberately engages in an effort of reframing the debate, because she fundamentally does not believe the state should *have* a particular institutional response to murder or rape.
She fundamentally does not believe the state should be in the business of regulating interpersonal behavior like this, no matter what harm is under consideration, and she often says so explicitly. She talks about how things like transformative justice should “never” be state-administered. She bemoans the “institutionalization” of violence interrupter programs.
Like, she’s an anarchist who fundamentally does not believe in institutions or states, and doesn’t want them to exist, and wants decentralized, relationship-based community *modes of inquiry and social relation* to take the place of rules, bureaucracies, institutions, and states.
I am not an anarchist. I think that’s a very bad idea. I like the state. I would like to have a socialist state.
So I don’t find her ideas compelling, and I’m not *really* sure how ideas like hers have become such an orthodoxy on the far left, when so many of us are *not* anarchists who fundamentally distrust the state to *ever* administer justice or prevent violence, even if we agree the current PIC doesn’t do those things well (or at all—I wouldn’t go that far, but many would).
But fundamentally, she never really says “this is what we should do after someone commits a murder,” because her position rejects, explicitly, the idea that there ever ought to be an institution that responds in a predictable way to things like murders, nor does she believe rules should exist that guide formal and predictable responses.
Her anarchist vision of freedom and care is one that so fundamentally loathes institutions and bureaucracies that she *can’t* answer the question, because she doesn’t believe such an answer ever *should* exist. Instead, she talks about *what society and communities should look like*, which is fine, but doesn’t answer the specific question in a way that satisfies your average non-anarchist person (or me, for that matter).
I’m really dropping the ball on normal couple activities for married men and women. I haven’t done this even once much less offer it as a weekend date.
so insane that you birds are in my comments justifying your boyfriend shoving his fingers up your pussy in the back of a vs cause “ofc he gets horny thinking about me in lingerie” but can not fathom young girls being uncomfortable with the possibility of men thinking about them
That's very fucked up and absolutely false!!
Trans women with facial hair are not protected from transmisogyny at all.
How can anybody who claims to care about trans women say that?
I've known a girl with facial hair that's been assaulted bc of transmisogyny dont fuck with me
My favorite recurring bit in these End Times has been the ongoing collaboration between all of the most insane people in the U.S. and Israel to birth the Apocalypse Cow
Patriarchal class solidarity is wild. A woman says "my husband and I try for a little physical intimacy every night, even if it doesn't lead to sex" and one zillion men mobilize on the husband's behalf to call her an abusive bitch and tell women to open their legs and lie back
@epballou Laying in my bed staring at the ceiling desperately hoping someone comes in dresses me, carries me to a vehicle and drives me to my 1pm appointment.
@mo_shawki2 Actually- it’s because I argued that people use masks 😷 to hide their identity to support terrorism and commit violent acts without consequences.
Trump is the most loathsome mobster in American politics who should die in a sewer, also every Democrat condemning his ONE GOOD DECISION — ending his horrific, criminal war of choice — should be run out of public life forever.