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Muslims often claim the Christian Trinity is polytheism (shirk)— "partners" to Allah. But this confuses tritheism with the actual Trinity: 1 God in 3 internal expressions of operation. Let's dismantle this and show how the Quran makes the same human logic error.
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos And despite you're thinking your so clever, you go and flatter the word "before" to always mean foreknown. Despite the fact the Greek word used hopou ēn to proteron
Meaning:
“where He formerly was.”
Not foreknown, predestined. There are other Greek words for that.
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos You're argument is completely incoherent.
What is even more bizarre is you took the position that on the one hand humans pre-existed in heaven without script but on the other hand every script of Christ stating he pre-existed is nothing but foreknown instead.
Incoherent logic.
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos How does He now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’? John 6:42
This verse nullifies you're rediculious claim humans pre-existed in heaven.Because if this was true why would this be such a shock to them?
Why would even foreknown be such a shock to them?
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos Prophetic past concerns future events, not prior personal existence. If Jesus merely meant I was foreordained, he would of corrected them instead what you find is their reaction makes little sense to what you're trying to force in interpretation.
@0786Anon@dawahxdialogues It would of been best if you listened and moved on.
Calling Wood a rapist for sleeping with a 13 year old by your own standard Muhammed is far worse for a 9 year old
There is a big difference between kissing a live boy which Muhammed did to resurrecting a boy.
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos Provide a citation from an academy or by dictionary that proves pre-existence and foreknown means the same thing. They are interchangeable words.
If they are not by what criteria do you distinguish between the two words.
@CertainSpeaks A human begets a human
A dog begets a dog
Each according to its same nature.
God begets God.
If God begets God it is of the same nature. Aseity. Therefore we are dealing with beget of intellect and not beget of sexual intercause.
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos And pre-existence has its own language.
a subject personally exists prior to a defined temporal boundary event.
And pre-existence is not interchangeable with foreknowledge or predestination.
Correct?
@Moood051@SalmanS74944141@InspiringPhilos You state the following (What’s true of pre-existence statements must be true of preordained statements.)
Different grammatical communication.
The president was in my plans before the company existed.
VS
The president returned to where he was before the company existed