@derrick2535@KenIngalls I won’t speak for Ken, but I’d be hard-pressed to consider the one team that hasn’t won the division in that time frame as the most successful among them. “Success” is subjective to some degree, I suppose, but the team’s goals are to win the division and win the Super Bowl. So 🤷♂️
Every team in the NFC North has won the division since the Packers did. Gutekunst & LaFleur will either get extended or fired this offseason (contracts expire following 2026 season; Policy won’t have lame-duck GM / coach). These past 4 years have been enough to offer EXTENSIONS?
@KyleBroughton4@BartWinklerShow I agree with that re: Tomlin. He’d get hired by another team, but that doesn’t mean the Steelers shouldn’t have moved on years ago. LaFleur isn’t in that camp yet. But Packers wasted time not getting rid of McCarthy soon enough. Finding that line with MLF will be critical.
@KyleBroughton4@BartWinklerShow McDermott is definitely on the hot seat if Buffalo has a bad playoff showing. As to your answer about 3-5 more years for LaFleur, ok, but that is a VERY patient approach in my book. If you were a Steelers fan, when (if ever) in the past 10 years would you have wanted Tomlin gone?
@derrick2535@KenIngalls Derrick, respectfully, I’m confused by the idea that you and some Packers fans have that not coming in 4th is an accomplishment. Avoiding last place in the division and being the 7th seed in 3 consecutive years is a success? To each their own, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
@acnelson93 I’m not being snarky, just genuinely asking: based on your comment then, are you pinning that on Love? On Gutekunst for drafting Love? On LaFleur for not doing enough with Love as his QB? All of the above?
@KyleBroughton4@BartWinklerShow I appreciate your thoughtful comments. My opinion would be extend Gutekunst, not LaFleur. The question I don’t think you answered, though: if you would extend MLF, then how many more years of not winning the division or making the SB before you’d move on at head coach?
@kyle_valente For what it’s worth, personally, I would extend Gutekunst. He’s been far from perfect, but I’m generally aligned with the approach. However, I would not extend LaFleur, and thus, given the lame-duck nature of 2026, that means a new head coach next season.
@KyleBroughton4@BartWinklerShow We’ll have to agree to disagree that everything was great until 2 weeks ago. But ok, let’s play it out that LaFleur and Gutekunst both get extensions. My next question then is, how many more years of not winning the NFC North or making a Super Bowl before you’d want to move on?
@Rube008 Depends if playoff appearances and regular season wins is the main barometer of success. If that’s what success is for some people, that’s fine with me. I just don’t agree. In those 15 years you mention, Packers have made zero Super Bowl appearances.
@KyleBroughton4@BartWinklerShow Yes, you don’t want to become those horribly managed teams you mentioned. But I’ll ask my same question… two choices this offseason: extend or fire. Contracts expire end of 2026 season; Policy won’t have a lame-duck GM or coach. Have they done enough to warrant being extended?
@KristopherLG@KenIngalls Two choices this offseason with LaFleur and Gutekunst: extend or fire. As noted, their contacts expire at the end of the 2026 season and Policy has stated he doesn’t want a lame-duck GM or coach. So this offseason is decision time. Have they done enough to warrant being extended?